I do not think this discussion is going anywhere and as someone has
mentioned during the discussion its getting dirtier as well. I am going back
to being fence-sitter without commenting.
Before that, I would like to bring to the notice of Mayur how some of the
regional wikimedia movements has attained a lot without local chapters. I
have heard lots of traction going on about Odisha. Campus Ambassador program
being launched in Pune. Malayalam wiki (as a proud mallu), having traction
and meets being organised. All these was done without any local chapter in
place.
When you say that the India Chapter is not going to do anything for your
community, you are undermining the hard-work the volunteers have done till
now for the wikimedia movement all over the country without any bias.
We wouldn't have reached this stage of having the foundation office being
setup in Delhi without their contribution as well Mayur, please do not
forget that. All we are trying to say here is whether we need to look at a
local chapter without having enough traction as a good community in place.
As you yourself has said, setup a good community, have meetups and
discussion, get more volunteers as enthusiastic as Vibhi to join up, make a
mark and then have the local chapter setup to guide yourself to an excellent
community.
Healthy competition is what we need here, this discussion is now more or
less turning out to be a personal and vindicative attack in a subtle way on
many wikipedians out here who has been doing appreciable work for long.
Please let us not do that and put an end to this discussion and work towards
the common goal as a unified community.
Thanks
Abhi
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> Not having expectations is not anybody's fault.
> Simply saying that the chapter isn't doing anything for your community and
> is doing for thr other without substantial proof is however somebody's
> fault.
> I'll let you figure out whose fault it is.
> --Regards,
>
>
> On 6 June 2011 19:05, mayur <mayurdce(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>
>> We don't have any expectatins from india chapter that why we are planning
>> to make Delhi Chapter to grow our Community in delhi, Let hope if this
>> chapter can do anything for indian community.Till then we can arrange some
>> workshops and meetup to finish the first step to move ahead the creation
>> of Delhi Chapter as Nooper & Bishaka Suggested.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Abhilash S Unni
<abhilashunni(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>
>>> And my question Mayur (as a fencesitter for this entire conversation is),
>>> whether the approach has been right, tone has been right and the discussion
>>> has been right?
>>>
>>> The India chapter just started operations a few months back, isn't it
>>> prudent for all to wait and see how it is evolving before opening up
>>> chapters all over. A non-starter is as good as not having one. With as much
>>> respect to all who is behind the initiative for a Delhi chapter, I honestly
>>> think you should give reasonable time to the India Chapter and the
>>> Foundation office being setup in Delhi to mature before embarking on having
>>> more chapter offices in India.
>>>
>>> Abhi
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 6:40 PM, mayur <mayurdce(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>>>
>>>> My answer would be to grow from good to Excellent Community
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Mayur
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>>> rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That is exactly my question.
>>>>> If you can get a good community, why would you want a Chapter all
for
>>>>> yourself?
>>>>> --SR
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 June 2011 14:21, mayur <mayurdce(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I just discussed that if we can gather a good
community in
>>>>>> delhi, then we will proceed further for Creation of Chapter.Its
not about
>>>>>> to aim a Chapter without having Good Community.We will proceed
further if we
>>>>>> get 10-20 member.Plz don't make it a serious issue.We all are
part of the
>>>>>> Same family.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Mayur
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan <
>>>>>> rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Vibhi,
>>>>>>> As far as I know, the Chapter, is registered in K'taka
and as per
>>>>>>> K'taka rules you need to be above 18 to be a part of it.
I'm pretty sure
>>>>>>> this age rule is commons throughout the country. If it is,
even if you do
>>>>>>> get a chapter, you'll have to wait 5 years to be a
member.
>>>>>>> You're13. The same age, I was when I joined Wikipedia.
>>>>>>> I suggest you concentrate on your edits.
>>>>>>> I see you have good language skills, why don't you focus
on local
>>>>>>> wikiprojects?
>>>>>>> Or help me translate Huggle to Hindi or Samskrit?
>>>>>>> Have a look:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Localization
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arun, Naveen, and I had held a Samskrit academy last year in
>>>>>>> Bangalore.
>>>>>>>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Academy/India/2010/Bangalore1
>>>>>>> The people who attended it are still active on Samskrit
Wikipedia.
>>>>>>> Get in touch with Arun or me, we can plug you into their
Google Group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you interested in Photography?
>>>>>>> Or editing images? Maps perhaps?
>>>>>>> Get in touch with PlaneMad, Logicwiki, SBC-YPR, naveenpf or
me, we
>>>>>>> can collectively contribute to the Commons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you are interested in bird watching, I'm pretty sure
User:Shyamal
>>>>>>> will be more than happy to help you identify birds and
upload pictures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or are you into coding?
>>>>>>> Get in touch with Logicwiki, Tinucherian or Yuvipanda.
>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure you can improve your edits and
contributions thru
>>>>>>> these channels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My best wishes to you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Regards,
>>>>>>> SR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6 June 2011 13:02, Bishakha Datta
<bishakhadatta(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan
<
>>>>>>>> rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bishakha,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just to point out, our community was going super
strong in the
>>>>>>>>> first half of 2009, before our first meetup at Tinu
Cherian's house in July
>>>>>>>>> 2009. We were colaborating, discussing and working
together, on Wikipedia
>>>>>>>>> itself. Without the mailing list, knowing each other,
offline, on Facebook
>>>>>>>>> or Twitter ...
>>>>>>>>> Ask anyone in the Banglore community, purely by using
Users talk
>>>>>>>>> pages we got several GA and FA level articles.
Gdibyendu, SBC-YPR, me and
>>>>>>>>> Logicwiki got Transport in India elevated to GA,
without knowing each other
>>>>>>>>> offline.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Got it - didn't mean to suggest offline better than
online.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Totally agree on the basic point: building a strong
community, by
>>>>>>>> any means necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>> Bishakha
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>>>>>>> --
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