Thanks for your work on this, Stevie. I think
this is an exciting
development.
I agree with you that it's okay to have two or three pages with a
non-white background, so long as the bulk of the document has a white
background.
When I look at the top of page 7, under the heading "Placing files using
wikicode" the code in the example is the wrong font size (viewed in Chrome,
which might not be rendering the font correctly). Thus the two closing
square brackets are not under the label "two closing square brackets".
One page 3, under "what is allowed on Commons", this is where we need
some mention of the UK position on freedom of panorama, but this is an area
I'm relatively clueless in, so someone more clueful should chime in.
On page 11, the link "Help:Public domain" is in a smaller font than the
surrounding text.
It's a good idea to have a version number in any printed document, e.g.
"UK version 1.0, published September 2013", along with a URL of the
electronic version, so that people who get a paper copy can 1) verify that
the version they have is current, and 2) send the document to their
colleagues. I've been nagging Foundation staff to do this too. I wish just
sending electronic versions were enough in itself, but in my experience
it's vastly more likely to be read if you target people and hand them a
paper copy, and once they're enthusiastic they will recommend the link in
their workplace or their professional networks.
There will be changes over time, but these will be relatively minor. It
doesn't matter that there are small changes to the Commons home page or WP
interface, so long as the instructions given by the booklet ("click on the
button in the top right") are still valid.
Thanks again for your work on this!
On 28 August 2013 21:34, Michael Peel <michael.peel(a)manchester.ac.uk>wrote;wrote:
(re-sending in case I'm still having problems
with my mikepeel.netaddress - apologies if this comes through twice!)
On 28 Aug 2013, at 21:31, Michael Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net> wrote:
Hi Stevie,
Thanks for sharing the draft. It's better to upload large files like
this to
the wiki and then link to them, rather than sending around large
files by email, though. Here's some suggestions for improvement/corrections:
I think there's a font issue either with the PDF or your computer -
some of
the t's are appearing very oddly, with a little loop going from the
top of the t back over the previous letter. E.g. see the text on page 8
where the issue is particularly clear. Let me know if you can't reproduce
this, and I'll send you a screenshot.
Page 2 - "media from Commons is used by", that should be "media from
Commons are used by" as 'media' is plural in this situation. (I've
pointed
this out on the file talk page for the original as it's a mistake in that
version.)
Page 3 - you might want to tidy the indentation on the text there.
E.g. under
'What is allowed', the first bullet point should be at the same
level as the next two, and under 'What is not allowed' the last line of the
intro paragraph should be indented at the same level as the rest of the
paragraph. Similarly, in the sidebar on page 10 could do with some tidying
as the x's appear on the second line in some cases. These are probably due
to differences in software versions or settings as they look OK in the
original version.
Page 6 - there seems to be a closing bracket missing after the media
symbol in
point (1) - as per the last, as it looks OK in the original
version.
Page 7 - "for putting images in" makes me cringe. :-/ "for adding
images to a wiki page" would be much better.
Page 10 needs some clarifying, as it says "The Wikimedia Commons
default is
the Creative Commons Attribution- ShareAlike licence (CC BY-SA),
which says that ..." - technically, the description it gives after that is
a human-readable summary rather than what the license says, so this needs a
bit of rewording to something like 'which explains that' or 'which sets out
that'. (Again, I've pointed this out on the file talk page for the original
as it's a mistake in that version.)
The "Is it public domain?" section on page 11 could do with some
localisation, as right now it's all US-focused rather than relating to the
UK. I'd suggest making it clear that the UK is life+70 years, and perhaps
also mention the Open Government License?
The back page should probably have WMUK's details and contact
information
included on it (potentially including the charity and company
number), rather than just the WMUK logo and a general description. Also,
there's some spelling mistakes: "colelct", "hiostoric". (I'm
also fairly
sure that 'Wikimedia Foundation' should always be preceded by 'the', but
I've never figured out why Americans seem to consistently do this
incorrectly...)
Hope this helps. :-)
BTW, do you have an expected lifetime for the booklet before it needs
refreshing?
I guess things like the visual editor screenshots will age
reasonably quickly, and things like the screenshots are already out of date
(particularly those of the Commons homepage that quote the number of
Commons files as 17,735,052 and 17,801,932, as it's already over 18.1
million now ;-) ).
Thanks,
Mike
On 22 Aug 2013, at 14:34, Stevie Benton <
stevie.benton(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
wrote:
> Hello again everyone,
>
> I've managed to get the InDesign files and have been doing a little
work
on the brochure. There's now a draft localised version for the UK.
This is attached. I really like it but wonder what others think?
>
> Andy, I take on board your suggestion about removing the grey
background in
places but I actually think it adds quite a lot to the design
so I've kept it.
>
> With regards to freedom of panorama, as mentioned before I know
nothing about
this so if anyone can take a look at the copy and suggest any
appropriate changes I'll take care of it.
>
> Hope you like the booklet!
>
> Stevie
>
>
> On 14 August 2013 16:37, Martin Poulter <infobomb(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Why produce a paper brochure? Because of immediacy, e.g. in training
sessions
it's more convenient for people to have something in front of them
to step through rather than opening yet another browser tab. If we want to
get our message through to staff in content projects and GLAMs, immediacy
may well make the difference when they are being bombarded with recommended
links or contacts. Good point about ink though.
>
>
> On 14 August 2013 15:53, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>
wrote:
>
> On 7 August 2013 15:37, Daria Cybulska <
daria.cybulska(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> A new brochure about Wikimedia Commons has
been produced. Designed to
be a companion brochure to the Welcome to Wikipedia
brochure, it covers
what Commons is, how to upload files, how to use files, and the basics of
free licenses -
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Illustrating_Wikipedia_brochure.pdf
>
> We would like to have a version printed in the UK as well. What are
your
thoughts on the content?
>
> The grey background of some pages will burn up ink if people print
their own
copies; white would be better.
>
> There is a lack of continuity in referring to uploading "images" vs.
"media" - at one point, it says "You can also upload audio", but
doesn't
mention video
>
> It is misleading on freedom of panorama. It says you can upload
pictures of
"old" buildings, if they're "in the public domain". (It may be
wise to mention the difference between FoP in the UK, and in countries
where the law is less liberal on the matter.)
>
> Environmentally speaking, why produce a paper brochure? Why not put
the
material online, and hand out business (size) cards with a URL and QR
code?
>
> Otherwise, a good initiative.
>
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