Wikimedia Christmas cards using seasonal Commons images are a good idea. Ditto the charity calendars idea. If we want those available for this Christmas, though, we'd probably need to get the ball rolling (however one does that, it's not my area of expertise) fairly soon. Harry ------------------------------ *From:* WereSpielChequers &lt;werespielchequers(a)gmail.com&gt; *To:* wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 14:04 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise I'm not convinced that Postcards are that big an opportunity, unlike Xmas cards there isn't a tradition of buying charity ones. I'm sure we could do an awesome pack of "seasonal greetings cards" and there is a well developed infrastructure around that for us to get into. Where there may well be a gap in the market for Postcards is for many local areas with a little bit of tourism but not enough to support Postcard production in the era of high volume printing. So tourists to London can find Postcards of Big Ben and Tower bridge in hundreds of outlets. But the combination of Commons as source of images and the revolution in print economics does give us the opportunity to create a Postcard service. I don't know what the minimum economic run would be for it to be interesting, but I suspect it would be within reach of some individual shops. I'm thinking in terms of a webservice that allows people to say where they are and offers local pictures (from commons) but with a category and search based option that gives access to everything else. This could let people choose a bunch of designs and volumes, and buy by credit card or Paypal with delivery by Post. The only drawback, and it is a big one, is that anyone could launch a rival service and undercut us. Unlike Xmas cards there is no tradition of choosing charity ones where it comes to Postcards. Regards WSC On 13 September 2011 00:34, &lt;iain.macdonald(a)wikinewsie.org&gt; wrote: Add a 'your pic here' line under the postcard photo? Might it be possible, also, to arrange people - retailers, say - to order themselves ANY Commons image with that tagline beneath as a postcard? Maybe have images verified first somehow, to prevent copyright abuse. Massive infrastructure and time work, but blue sky and all that. Iain -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise From: Harry Mitchell &lt;hjmitchell(a)ymail.com&gt; Date: Mon, September 12, 2011 9:28 pm To: &quot;wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&quot; &lt;wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; I don't know how much use postcards, even Wikimedia postcards, would get, but some of the Commons POTYs would be great for that kind of thing. How we get past "look at the pretty picture" to "upload your own", I'm not sure. In my (relatively limited) experience, it's not the smallest sizes that are left over! ;) What else makes a good platform for advertising Commons? Harry ------------------------------ *From:* Richard Symonds &lt;chasemewiki(a)gmail.com&gt; *To:* 'Harry Mitchell' &lt;hjmitchell(a)ymail.com&gt;om>; wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Monday, 12 September 2011, 21:08 *Subject:* RE: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise Tshirts are good, but you do have to get every size, and invariably there’ll be loads of “extra extra” sizes left over. Something that’d encourage people to upload to commons would be good though – I did get a WM Commons Christmas card last year from Mr Forrester! Postcards would be cheap, easy to make, and we’ve got some wonderful pictures. But would they be good at getting people to upload? PS – I’m loving these ideas. Flip-flops especially! *From:* wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [ mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org<wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org>] *On Behalf Of *Harry Mitchell *Sent:* 12 September 2011 19:03 *To:* wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise How about t-shirts or something that encourage people to upload their images to Commons? I've long thought that more people *would* if they knew about it. Harry ------------------------------ *From:* George Watson &lt;george.watson(a)wikinewsie.org&gt; *To:* wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org *Sent:* Monday, 12 September 2011, 18:44 *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise wrote: want make the The biggest problem with that is NPOV - something like that implies that WMUK supports the opposite position (i.e., Thatcher lacked compassion, Rooney doesn't deserve his money). That perhaps isn't what we want. It might also be a good idea to look at producing merchandise for other projects as well - they could do with the exposure more than enWP, I'm sure. -- Regards, George Watson <http://dendodge.me> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Charity Christmas cards and calendars are ordered in about March for sale in August onwards, which is regarded as "in time for Christmas". We also don't have the typical charity Christmas shopping demographic - our donor demographic wants everything available online and instantly and probably doesn't start thinking about Christmas until December. Payroll giving is definitely something we should offer when we are a charity, but is in no sense easy to set up (and it's also very much an ugly duckling in the fundraising world, lengthy discussion as to reasons why). Chris (slightly in critic mode) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org