On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Richard Symonds <chasemewiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: The idea that there may even be any sort of legal dimension hadn't occurred in even the most over-active and alert synapses of my fevered brain! So, I don't know how I managed to plant that seed... No, I was just trying to picture the merchandise, so whether it was going to have a UK mention on it or just be plain Wikimedia was about picturing it. WereSpiel's ideas of mousemats and mugs are tried and tested but I think none the worse for that. If it were within our abilities to revolutionise merchandising I suspect we'd be typing our emails on solid gold keyboards. But, OK, blue-sky and would really "make me edit"? I think the one thing that would most make me want to edit would be to see something wrong or that I disagreed with. So it could be a typo. You'd have a badge saying "this is a badje [edit]" or "this is a quayring [edit]" or "this is a mugg [edit]". Or, more provocatvely, "Margaret Thatcher was the world's most compassionate woman. [edit]" or "Wayne Rooney deserves every penny he gets. [edit]". The trick with those, though, is identifying people who are likely to disagree. Some places do promotional USB drives now. I'm trying to think what one could pre-load them with, but I'm coming up blank. Maybe it could have all of Wikipedia's unusual articles on as seen here...? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEIRD Bod

How about t-shirts or something that encourage people to upload their images to Commons? I've long thought that more people *would* if they knew about it. Harry ________________________________ From: George Watson &lt;george.watson(a)wikinewsie.org&gt; To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011, 18:44 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise The biggest problem with that is NPOV - something like that implies that WMUK supports the opposite position (i.e., Thatcher lacked compassion, Rooney doesn't deserve his money). That perhaps isn't what we want. It might also be a good idea to look at producing merchandise for other projects as well - they could do with the exposure more than enWP, I'm sure. -- Regards, George Watson <http://dendodge.me> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

I don't know how much use postcards, even Wikimedia postcards, would get, but some of the Commons POTYs would be great for that kind of thing. How we get past "look at the pretty picture" to "upload your own", I'm not sure. In my (relatively limited) experience, it's not the smallest sizes that are left over! ;) What else makes a good platform for advertising Commons? Harry ________________________________ From: Richard Symonds &lt;chasemewiki(a)gmail.com&gt; To: 'Harry Mitchell' &lt;hjmitchell(a)ymail.com&gt;om>; wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011, 21:08 Subject: RE: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise Tshirts are good, but you do have to get every size, and invariably there’ll be loads of “extra extra” sizes left over. Something that’d encourage people to upload to commons would be good though – I did get a WM Commons Christmas card last year from Mr Forrester! Postcards would be cheap, easy to make, and we’ve got some wonderful pictures. But would they be good at getting people to upload?   PS – I’m loving these ideas. Flip-flops especially!   From:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Harry Mitchell Sent: 12 September 2011 19:03 To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise   How about t-shirts or something that encourage people to upload their images to Commons? I've long thought that more people *would* if they knew about it.   Harry   ________________________________ From:George Watson &lt;george.watson(a)wikinewsie.org&gt; To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Monday, 12 September 2011, 18:44 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise The biggest problem with that is NPOV - something like that implies that WMUK supports the opposite position (i.e., Thatcher lacked compassion, Rooney doesn't deserve his money). That perhaps isn't what we want. It might also be a good idea to look at producing merchandise for other projects as well - they could do with the exposure more than enWP, I'm sure. -- Regards, George Watson <http://dendodge.me> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

+1. I very much like this idea! Does anyone know who set that up/who was in charge of that idea? -----Original Message----- From: wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Gray Sent: 13 September 2011 13:53 To: Harry Mitchell; wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise On 12 September 2011 21:28, Harry Mitchell &lt;hjmitchell(a)ymail.com&gt; wrote: we are Some "mosaic" Commons postcards (possibly from WMDE?) were floating around at Wikimania, and were very popular - well, they vanished fast, anyway. In my experience, a lot of people take these to be pretty pictures to put somewhere rather than to use as postcards qua postcards, which is fair enough, but perhaps we could capitalise on this. If they're not actually using the back, we don't need to leave it blank - so why not pre-print it with a message? Some options: a) a quick guide to uploading to Commons, in two or three steps. b) ditto for creating an enwiki (or other project) account. c) a general introduction to free content. d) the story of the image. The latter requires careful research and selection, but is potentially very impressive if we do it right - "This picture of a sycamore was taken on June 2008 by Maria, a German Wikipedia editor in Munich. Since then, it's been used to illustrate 48 articles in 36 different language editions of Wikipedia, where it's been seen well over four hundred thousand times. It's used in over a hundred other websites as a stock photograph, and has appeared in a magazine and a children's schoolbook." - and it should be fairly easy to follow that with a message of "you can really contribute something worthwhile"! -- - Andrew Gray   andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

I'm always a sucker for peens, mugs, mousemats, t-shirts etc & students even more so however.. I don't know how feasible it is but could the item (either hardcopy or on usb stick etc) be customised to be related to the event/venue/organisation eg if it were a GLAM meeting with WP:Somerset & the Museum of Somerset (topically as the museums reopens this month & we'd like to do a joint meeting) then the handouts would include a copy of the current article on the museum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_of_Somerset) or some of their exhibits (eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frome_Hoard ) - but with markup which says "citation needed", "expand" or whatever included. If it was being held in a town or city then the article for that location could be used. If a group eg BCS then use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Computer_Society. If a speaker or organiser of the event has an article then that could be included. Probably much too much work - but blue skies Rod -----Original Message----- From: wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Bod Notbod Sent: 12 September 2011 18:24 To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Suggestions for Merchandise On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Richard Symonds &lt;chasemewiki(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: The idea that there may even be any sort of legal dimension hadn't occurred in even the most over-active and alert synapses of my fevered brain! So, I don't know how I managed to plant that seed... No, I was just trying to picture the merchandise, so whether it was going to have a UK mention on it or just be plain Wikimedia was about picturing it. make the WereSpiel's ideas of mousemats and mugs are tried and tested but I think none the worse for that. If it were within our abilities to revolutionise merchandising I suspect we'd be typing our emails on solid gold keyboards. But, OK, blue-sky and would really "make me edit"? I think the one thing that would most make me want to edit would be to see something wrong or that I disagreed with. So it could be a typo. You'd have a badge saying "this is a badje [edit]" or "this is a quayring [edit]" or "this is a mugg [edit]". Or, more provocatvely, "Margaret Thatcher was the world's most compassionate woman. [edit]" or "Wayne Rooney deserves every penny he gets. [edit]". The trick with those, though, is identifying people who are likely to disagree. Some places do promotional USB drives now. I'm trying to think what one could pre-load them with, but I'm coming up blank. Maybe it could have all of Wikipedia's unusual articles on as seen here...? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WEIRD Bod _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1392 / Virus Database: 1520/3892 - Release Date: 09/12/11

On 13 September 2011 08:49, Gordon Joly &lt;gordon.joly(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote: Yeah - this is more schwag than merchandise. Though I think we might want to consider merchandise too, as long as it's got an OK from the WMF as trademark owner - note that WMF has been in the process of over-hauling how/if they do merchandise for several years now. Yours, -- James D. Forrester jdforrester(a)wikimedia.org | jdforrester(a)gmail.com [[Wikipedia:User:Jdforrester|James F.]]