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Just for fun.
by Gordon Joly 03 May '12

03 May '12

A painting with Wikipedia links. http://cliptank.com/PeopleofInfluencePainting.htm Gordo

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Olympic mascots on Commons
by Tom Morris 02 May '12

02 May '12

I proudly present, those ghastly Olympics mascots, now available on Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Olympic_mascots.jpg I shall now await being sued by Lord Coe and the LOGOC and/or a massive deletion debate on Commons. -- Tom Morris <http://tommorris.org/>

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Two technical questions
by Jon Davies 02 May '12

02 May '12

1. Anyone know of an open source equivalent of Survey Monkey? 2. On open office I cannot get the template to use Arial as a default font. Can anyone help? -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. 07976 935 986 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513 Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Two technical questions
by Jon Davies 02 May '12

02 May '12

Gordon came up with a good list of what is available - one it does not include is the Google tool - does anyone have user knowledge of it? On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote: > On 02/05/12 13:43, Jon Davies wrote: > > 1. Anyone know of an open source equivalent of Survey Monkey? > > > Jon, > > Here is a survey..... of online surveys. > > http://www.idealware.org/articles/fgt_online_surveys.php > > Gordo > > -- *Jon Davies - Chief Executive Wikimedia UK*. 07976 935 986 tweet @jonatreesdavies Wikimedia UK is the operating name of Wiki UK Limited. Wiki UK Ltd is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513 Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Telephone (0044) 207 065 0990. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). It is an independent non-profit organization with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. Visit http://www.wikimedia.org.uk/ and @wikimediauk

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi?
by brian.mcneil＠wikinewsie.org 02 May '12

02 May '12

Forgive the scathing cynicism, but we're governed by retards who I wouldn't trust to change a 13-amp fuse! Let alone actually realise that 99% of household equipment could get by with a 1-amp, or less, fuse. I _know_ my local WiFi ;-) (SSID: xxxxxxxxxx, Key: not telling). I also know that WEP is so trivially broken that, pardon the pun, "there's an app for that". WPA is not a great deal better. I've broken a couple just to prove the point. If you're planning to run an open point, do it and be damned. If this is a 'public service', and some media mogul tries to sue you then half the country would chip in to a legal fighting fund. Sadly, Wikimedia UK has to be 'polite' to politicians; I suspect David Gerard would gleefully join me in setting about them with a clue-by-four, and tell them, bluntly, to defer to the likes of Sir Tim Berners-Lee on what is good for the Internet. The Digital Economy Act should be overturned. The Limp-Dems promised to do so - until they ended up in a coalition with Cameron. Now, I'm dealing with repeated alarmist emails from 38 Degrees about plans to grant the police and security services "carte blanche" snooping powers. I could say "I told you so", and you could search for "INDECT" on Wikinews. I, very infrequently, chip in on this list; and, the above is 'quite a rant'. However, I'm of the opinion that WM-UK should be an active advocate for a free and unfettered Internet. Thankfully my own hacking exploits predate the Computer Misuse Act. But, when I'm back online at home, I'll be joining the mayhem in running a Tor node, and whoever in the police told Cameron they'd like more powers can explain how they can't crack real encryption. Brian McNeil -- Wikinews, Accredited Reporter. Personal: brian.mcneil(a)o2.co.uk "Facts don't cease to be facts, but news ceases to be news." > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] So who knows about their local wifi? > From: Tom Morris <tom(a)tommorris.org> > Date: Tue, May 01, 2012 11:24 am > To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > > On 1 May 2012 11:04, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 1 May 2012 10:35, Thomas Morton <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > >> More than anything it depends on the context; if you are talking about a > >> small endeavour at, say, a meeting venue you're probably alright using an > >> ad-hoc setup. But if you are talking an entirely public network then things > >> are more complex. > >> To be honest; once you are at that level you should be talking to a > >> professional company anyway, as supplying Wifi of that sort is a non-trivial > >> technical exercise. And they will know exactly what is required. > > > > > > I note also the Hack Day Manifesto (really a how-to), which goes into > > quite some detail on the technical side (though not the legal one): > > > > http://hackdaymanifesto.com/ > > > > As one of the Hack Day Manifesto drafting cabal, I'll note why we didn't... > > Firstly, because we aren't lawyers. If you are a lawyer, the Hack Day > Manifesto is on Github, and, as we say on Wikipedia, "anyone can > edit". > > Secondly, because what we do know about the law on wifi, it's actually > very difficult to know what is required. When the Digital Economy Act > was up for debate, one of the provisions, if I recall correctly, would > require closing of open wifi following repeated copyright infringement > complaints, but whether that is going to be required is something I > believe we are still waiting upon from the official Ofcom guidance > (not to go political, but having a law where you basically pass it > without reading it, then have someone else work out exactly what it > means is a hermeneutic strategy that should make postmodernists very > happy and anyone who values transparency and deliberation not so > happy). > > There are still some very strange questions about whether or not using > a weak protection system for wifi would count - WEP is now trivially > crackable, and WPA rather than WPA2 is also trivial to crack... > requiring WPA2 means certain older devices can't connect to wifi. > > It'd certainly be useful for everybody involved if we could have some > lawyers work out exactly what the current civil and criminal penalties > and issues of concern are around open wifi usage. > > I say that as someone who lives right out in the countryside and, > partly on principle, keeps his wifi completely open. Why? Because I > believe that if you should be unfortunate enough to find yourself > standing outside my house, the least you should be able to do is check > Google Maps to find your way to where you are going. Given that we > have really bad GPS reception, almost no mobile reception, certainly > no 3G reception, I see almost no benefit in preventing people from > leeching a little bandwidth from me... on the basis that if I were > momentarily outside their house, I'd really like to be able to do > likewise. Share and share alike, be the change you want to see and all > that. > > Security expert Bruce Schneier does similarly: > https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/01/my_open_wireles.html > > Of course, if some bastard tracks me down, camps outside my house and > uses my wifi to upload his kiddy porn stash, nuclear bomb construction > instructions or the contents of their 'Lady Gaga' CD-RW to Wikileaks, > and I end up in jail, that would suck quite considerably. Hence why > having some guidance from actual lawyers would be quite useful. > > -- > Tom Morris > <http://tommorris.org/> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

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So who knows about their local wifi?
by Roger Bamkin 02 May '12

02 May '12

Hi guys, I'm interested in wifis. We have some concerns about the legalities of allowing anonymous users to use a free wifi system without giving their email addresses or agreeing to terms and conditions. Can't tell you where - but you might guess Does anyone... - Know what the legal position is and any important guidelines that may apply? - Know of a large public free wifi system that doesn't demand registration and/or t&c s? I' m obviously interested in liberal examples.? So you have 24 hours! Thanks in anticipation -- Roger Bamkin

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Wikimedia UK communications review - Wiki page created for input
by Stevie Benton 01 May '12

01 May '12

Hello everyone, There's a need for a thorough review of Wikimedia UK's communications. To this end I've created a page on the UK Wiki - http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/2012_communications_review - as a starting point for suggestions, comments, ideas, feedback and so on. Please do get involved as it's really important that everyone who wishes to input into this process has the chance to do so. I've made some preliminary suggestions and comments to get us started but do, please, comment or amend as you see fit. If you think something is worth further debate, please use the discussion page. Thank you in advance for all of your help, Stevie -- Stevie Benton Communications Organiser Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 20 7065 0993

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