Wikimediauk-l December 2008

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Gift Aid - an update
by Andrew Turvey 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

Hi all, Just to keep you up to date regarding Gift Aid. I spoke to the HMRC Charities Unit today and asked them when we should expect a response. They said they are currently taking between 6-8 weeks so we should expect to hear around mid January. As we are not registered with the Charity Commission their initial response may ask for more information to support out status as a charity; however, I'll keep everyone informed when we hear. Regards, Andrew Turvey Company Secretary Wiki UK Limited Wiki UK Limited is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. The Registered Office is at 23 Cartwright Way, Nottingham, NG9 1RL. Information contained in this email may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your system. Unauthorised copying, forwarding or other use of any confidential information in this email may result in legal action.

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] [WikiEN-l] UK censorship: I'm on BBC Radio 4 Today show tomorrow 8:20am
by David Gerard 08 Dec '08

08 Dec '08

2008/12/8 K. Peachey <p858snake(a)yahoo.com.au>: > If it has been posted to the discussion already i'm sorry, heres a link to > the discussion http://www.bathrobecabal.org/bbcinterview.mp3 Yeah, they pushed it to last in the programme. I didn't manage to work in the words "smells of hammers" or even "hamfisted and incompetent", unfortunately. But I think the point got across. I did a prerecord for BBC World Service World Update straight after where I got stuck into them a lot more, though I expect that to be edited to a soundbite or two :-) - d.

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London Wikimeet 16 - 14th December 2008
by Gordon Joly 07 Dec '08

07 Dec '08

The next London Wikimeet is at the usual place, and again on the second Sunday of the month at 1pm (14th December 2008). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/London_16 http://upcoming.yahoo.com/event/1375038 Upcoming says:- **** Penderel's Oak 283-288 High Holborn London, England WC1V 7HP * Drink beer and eat Sunday lunch * Chat about Wikipedia and any other topics we fancy. [...] **** I believe that drinking beer and eating Sunday lunch is optional. Chatting is encouraged, and often on matters of mutual interest. Near tubes: Holborn and Chancery Lane. Buses: 8, 242, 25 stop outside. Gordo -- "Think Feynman"///////// http://pobox.com/~gordo/ gordon.joly(a)pobox.com///

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Wikimania Ideas - Flicker Oxford team up
by joseph seddon 06 Dec '08

06 Dec '08

Heya guys, Whilst looking for some interesting photo's I stumbled accross a flicker group from oxford, they are very active it seems, they hold meet ups and are looking into running an exhibition next year. I think that it is of vital importance that we get in touch with these people and see whether they would be interested in getting involved in some way with the wikimania bid. Vice versa it could worthwhile to see if there is anyway we can assist them with thier exhibition. I know we have alot on our plate in terms of getting up and running but I think that we have a damn good chance of a successful bid and I would like to get hold of as many opportunities. Sedddon _________________________________________________________________ Imagine a life without walls. See the possibilities. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465943/direct/01/

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
by Thomas Dalton 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

2008/12/5 Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com>: > At 11:35 +0000 4/12/08, Thomas Dalton wrote: >> > I am sure there is some guesswork here. >>> >>> And yes, I agree, WMUK must be democratic. I am trying to suggest >>> that making every "supporting member" become a guarantor member (or >>> become nothing) might not be the best way forward. >> >>No-one has disagreed with that. What you're suggesting is *forcing* >>certain people not to become guarantor members. That is the part that >>is undemocratic. >> > > I like the idea of forcing somebody *not* to do something! You know perfectly well what I mean. Why don't you just explain why you think limiting the numbers of guarantor members is a good thing?

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Size of board
by Thomas Dalton 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

I have started a discussion on what size future boards should be, please give your views on meta: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_UK_v2.0#Size_of_board

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
by Thomas Dalton 05 Dec '08

05 Dec '08

> I am sure there is some guesswork here. > > And yes, I agree, WMUK must be democratic. I am trying to suggest > that making every "supporting member" become a guarantor member (or > become nothing) might not be the best way forward. No-one has disagreed with that. What you're suggesting is *forcing* certain people not to become guarantor members. That is the part that is undemocratic.

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Schools wikipedia memory sticks
by Andrew Cates 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

We have the schools wikipedia on a 4Gb memory stick now available if anyone who has previously expressed legit interest would like a copy. Please email me your postal address WITHOUT the string "wiki" anywhere in the message title (or I may not see it for a while) DVDs will be another few weeks: we are giving requests from Africa priority and are on a reburn. If anyone has ideas for interested journalists who might like a memory stick please let me know as above. Thanks Andrew/ BozMo

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
by Mickey Conn 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote: > So what did they these members do? Just pay their fees? > > Gordo > > > -- > "Think Feynman"///////// > http://pobox.com/~gordo/ > gordon.joly(a)pobox.com/// > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > It was a real mix - some members saw the membership fee as a kind of donation and didn't ask for anything much in return. We sent out useful information, as well as information on what we were doing, and some members joined mostly for that. We also gave advice (not something the chapter will be doing), and a lot of members joined for that - but they didn't usually need ongoing advice, so it was important that they began having some other involvement. Only a minority of members - probably a small minority - joined with the intention of getting involved in the governance of the organisation, but it was good that the others had the opportunity. Plenty of members, over time, decided to get involved with proposing activities or policies, standing for the board, and attending AGMs. If people join us as friends, that introduces an extra hurdle in getting them involved in the chapter in this way. Best Wishes Mickey

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Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Process for admitting members
by Mickey Conn 04 Dec '08

04 Dec '08

I've been involved in a company with around 1,000 members and it found no particular difficulties with managing them. None of them were very interested in an alternative "friends" affiliation; quite a few took no interest in the AGM, but nobody ever suggested that the vanishingly small responsibilities of being a guarantor member had put them off joining (in part because the meaning of this was clearly explained on the membership form, as I believe it is on ours). Best Wishes Mickey On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote: > At 10:14 +0100 2/12/08, Michael Bimmler wrote: >>On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote: >> >>> I assert that that model is wrong. Maybe not for inception, but >>> certainly for the future. >>> >> >>Why? >> > > Being a member of a company (and in future a member of a charity) > will bring a certain responsibility, which some may find is not what > they want. > > A company with 1,000 members will be hard to manage. However, a > company with 100 members and 1,000 friends will be much easier to > keep running. > > I believe most people would want to be a "friend" rather than a > "member", and I mean "member" in the technical sense of "guarantor > member". > > Gordo > > -- > "Think Feynman"///////// > http://pobox.com/~gordo/ > gordon.joly(a)pobox.com/// > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >

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