Hi Liam,
2011/3/10 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com:
Hi Yann,
There is no shortage of museums that have huge collections of great stuff to photograph! :-) But yes, it would be good to get more Indian cultural heritage onto Wikimedia. According to the museum's website http://www.nationalmuseumindia.gov.in/ you can enter for 300rupees and are allowed to take photos for a further 300rupee fee. Presumably therefore, if you do buy this ticket, that means their policies allow people to take photos inside. I can't confirm this and it would be good if you would check for yourself so as to avoid any confrontations. I do not personally have any contacts at that museum and directly coordinating GLAM outreach relationships is not something that the Wikimedia Foundation can achieve. It is up to the local communities (and especially the chapters) to work out their best plans. I can help when necessary but we don't have any "official" capacity to contact anyone - we're just Wikimedians after all :-) Relatedly, I am working on the concept of the "GLAM Ambassador" who would have some kind of formal backing so they could get access to institutions, but this is a very young idea still.
In the mean time I would suggest that, if you can confirm if they DO allow photography, that you go ahead and do it - but make sure that you also add their record/accession/item record number to the metadata when you upload it so that it can be tracked back to their catalogue. If they do NOT allow photography then it will be a longer process to form a relationship with them to either have them donate their own images or allow Wikimedians in for a specific photography event.
Well, there are several problems with that.
1. In order to make good photographs, a tripod will be necessary. I doubt they will allow that for the usual fees.
2. Seeing the size of the museum, many days will be needed to take good photographs (not snapshots) of a sizeable portion of the museum. At 300 Rs. each, it would be expensive for me. Actually I might not need to pay that much, as I am a resident in India, and I am entitled to the Indian fees.
3. For some items, there might copyright issues to publish the resulting images under a free license.
Sincerely, -Liam
Regards,
Yann
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On 9 March 2011 16:44, Yann Forget yannfo@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I visited the National Museum in Delhi today and I have discovered that it contains a huge collection of arts which would be very interesting to have in Wikimedia Commons. I have a decent camera and a tripod, and I could spend some time taking photographs there, if the museum would allow. Would it be possible to contact them officially, either Hisham or someone from Wikimedia India?
Regards,
Yann
Hi Yann and Liam:
I'm trying to figure out a way to check on this but being based in Bangalore is a little bit of a limitation. I might be in Delhi early next week and am happy to drop by the Museum and speak with them.
Unless, of course, there is someone in Delhi who can help as well, please?
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
Hi Yann,
I spoke with a friend who has been to the museum before. And then another journalist with FrenchTV is acquainted with you and your work with Ekta Parishad.
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Yann Forget yannfo@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Liam,
2011/3/10 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com:
Hi Yann,
Well, there are several problems with that.
- In order to make good photographs, a tripod will be necessary. I
doubt they will allow that for the usual fees.
The National Museum permits the use of tripods on Mondays (for no extra charge) and for other days a request for permission has to be filed with the administration.
- Seeing the size of the museum, many days will be needed to take
good photographs (not snapshots) of a sizeable portion of the museum. At 300 Rs. each, it would be expensive for me. Actually I might not need to pay that much, as I am a resident in India, and I am entitled to the Indian fees.
The differentiation is between Indian and foreign nationals, therefore you will be required to pay the usual fees for foreigners. This is for still photography only.
- For some items, there might copyright issues to publish the
resulting images under a free license.
Please speak to Mr. Grover in the administration. Apparently, they have some conditions with regard to publication of pictures taken in the museum. Every picture should be tagged with "Courtesy: National Museum, New Delhi" and three copies of the published work must be placed with the museum.
Gautam, are there restrictions by copyright law on publishing pictures of art-work available in publicly-accessible galleries? [We did have a discussion on this with Pranesh at the last Bangalore Wikipedia meetup].
Yours sincerely,
anirudh
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On 10 March 2011 12:25, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
Gautam, are there restrictions by copyright law on publishing pictures of art-work available in publicly-accessible galleries? [We did have a discussion on this with Pranesh at the last Bangalore Wikipedia meetup].
I am assuming pretty much all of the objects in the museum that are intended to be photographed are out of copyright and by a long time! Assuming you are taking photographs of the objects themselves and not of the photographs that the museum has taken (which they will hold the copyright to) you should be good to go but would be useful to follow their attribution guidelines.
Thank you, Anirudh!
Best,
Gautam ________ http://social.prathambooks.org/
Hi Anirudh,
2011/3/10 Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com:
Hi Yann,
I spoke with a friend who has been to the museum before. And then another journalist with FrenchTV is acquainted with you and your work with Ekta Parishad.
Yeah, she called me this morning! ;o)
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Yann Forget yannfo@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Liam,
2011/3/10 Liam Wyatt liamwyatt@gmail.com:
Hi Yann,
Well, there are several problems with that.
- In order to make good photographs, a tripod will be necessary. I
doubt they will allow that for the usual fees.
The National Museum permits the use of tripods on Mondays (for no extra charge) and for other days a request for permission has to be filed with the administration.
Oh, that's great!
- Seeing the size of the museum, many days will be needed to take
good photographs (not snapshots) of a sizeable portion of the museum. At 300 Rs. each, it would be expensive for me. Actually I might not need to pay that much, as I am a resident in India, and I am entitled to the Indian fees.
The differentiation is between Indian and foreign nationals, therefore you will be required to pay the usual fees for foreigners. This is for still photography only.
No, I have a P.I.O. card, and I only pay the Indian fees when visiting places.
- For some items, there might copyright issues to publish the
resulting images under a free license.
Please speak to Mr. Grover in the administration. Apparently, they have some conditions with regard to publication of pictures taken in the museum. Every picture should be tagged with "Courtesy: National Museum, New Delhi" and three copies of the published work must be placed with the museum.
Ok, noted. The museum has a very interesting exhibition on history of Indian alphabets, with diagrams which would be absolutely great for Wikipedia.
Gautam, are there restrictions by copyright law on publishing pictures of art-work available in publicly-accessible galleries? [We did have a discussion on this with Pranesh at the last Bangalore Wikipedia meetup].
Yours sincerely,
anirudh
Best regards,
Yann
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