We were under the impression that the closing date is Nov 27, 2018. That’s what was mentioned in the website. Just now only I saw that you have changed that to Nov 25th only yesterday.

Here is the history of that edit - https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_(2019_India) https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_(2019_India)&diff=prev&oldid=18645643 &diff=prev&oldid=18645643

Two persons from Kravali Wikimedians User Group are planning to apply. They are still under the impression that the last date is Nov 27th.

Regards,

Pavanaja

From: Wikimediaindia-l wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org On Behalf Of Krishna Chaitanya Velaga Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:45 PM To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [TWL Con - 2019 India] Call for Applications

Sorry for the typo

The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 November 2018.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:40 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvelaga@gmail.com mailto:kcvelaga@gmail.com > wrote:

Dear all,

Tomorrow is the last day for applying to TWLCon - 2019 India. The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 September 2018.

If there is anyone who are interested to take part, kindly apply as soon as possible.

Event page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLC19IN

Application: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3

Thanks,

Krishna

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 1:33 AM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvelaga@gmail.com mailto:kcvelaga@gmail.com > wrote:

Dear all,

I am happy to announce that the applications for "TWL Con (2019 India)"[1], a mini-conference around The Wikipedia Library (TWL)[2] and library outreach for Wikimedia projects in India are now open. Due to limited time, we're not able to spare much time for responses, kindly accept my apologies. The application period is 19–25 November 2018.

In brief about the event:

TWL helps active editors access reliable sources to improve Wikipedia. Among several other programs, it also helps knowledge professionals share their collections with the public. TWLCon (2019 India) is an upcoming conference to increase awareness about TWL to Wikimedians in India and discuss strategising TWL activities in India. This event has been primarily designed to understand the needs and document the insights from experienced Wikimedians about libraries/sources (references) in India. More about the event may be referred from the event page.

The application form is at: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3; last date 25 November 2018.

The event is to be held in the first or second weeks of Jan 2019 (tentative); Venue will be informed later.

The eligibility guidelines are applicable as mentioned here [3].

Kindly let me know if you have further questions.

Thanks

User:KCVelaga

[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLC19IN

[2]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLCon_(2019_India)#Eligibility_and_guidelin...

[3]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library

I have noted on the talk page that this "event" appears to have been set up without much discussion. I would indeed even question the design of an event that precludes librarians who are outside the Wikimedia movement simply by requiring that one has a Wikimedia user name. Maybe Krishna can help some of us understand the process by which this event has been thought about?

best wishes Shyamal

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM pavanaja@vishvakannada.com wrote:

We were under the impression that the closing date is Nov 27, 2018. That’s what was mentioned in the website. Just now only I saw that you have changed that to Nov 25th only yesterday.

Here is the history of that edit - https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_(2019_India)&diff=pr...

Two persons from Kravali Wikimedians User Group are planning to apply. They are still under the impression that the last date is Nov 27th.

Regards,

Pavanaja

*From:* Wikimediaindia-l wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org *On Behalf Of *Krishna Chaitanya Velaga *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:45 PM *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [TWL Con - 2019 India] Call for Applications

Sorry for the typo

The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 November 2018.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:40 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

Tomorrow is the last day for applying to TWLCon - 2019 India. The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 September 2018.

If there is anyone who are interested to take part, kindly apply as soon as possible.

Event page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLC19IN

Application: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3

Thanks,

Krishna

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 1:33 AM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

I am happy to announce that the applications for "TWL Con (2019 India)"[1], a mini-conference around The Wikipedia Library (TWL)[2] and library outreach for Wikimedia projects in India are now open. Due to limited time, we're not able to spare much time for responses, kindly accept my apologies. The application period is 19–25 November 2018.

In brief about the event:

TWL helps active editors access reliable sources to improve Wikipedia. Among several other programs, it also helps knowledge professionals share their collections with the public. TWLCon (2019 India) is an upcoming conference to increase awareness about TWL to Wikimedians in India and discuss strategising TWL activities in India. This event has been primarily designed to understand the needs and document the insights from experienced Wikimedians about libraries/sources (references) in India. More about the event may be referred from the event page.

The application form is at: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3; last date 25 November 2018.

The event is to be held in the first or second weeks of Jan 2019 (tentative); Venue will be informed later.

The eligibility guidelines are applicable as mentioned here [3].

Kindly let me know if you have further questions.

Thanks

User:KCVelaga

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The whole planning seems to be half cooked, e.g. on the conference homepage it reads:

Venue & City: We're currently searching, let us know know if you have any good options; economical (free; library preferred), safe, well connected, easy of connecting with local library/librarian community.

And are we closing applications today? Should we not have a confirmed venue to begin with? Day before yesterday when I checked the page, even dates weren't confirm and there were couple of options projected there.

Regards, Dhaval Vyas

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018, 15:34 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvelaga@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shyamal,

I've seen your message on the talk page. I'll give my reply soon.

Thanks,

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:37 PM Shyamal Lakshminarayanan < lshyamal@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I have noted on the talk page that this "event" appears to have been set up without much discussion. I would indeed even question the design of an event that precludes librarians who are outside the Wikimedia movement simply by requiring that one has a Wikimedia user name. Maybe Krishna can help some of us understand the process by which this event has been thought about?

best wishes Shyamal

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM pavanaja@vishvakannada.com wrote:

...

We were under the impression that the closing date is Nov 27, 2018. That’s what was mentioned in the website. Just now only I saw that you have changed that to Nov 25th only yesterday.

Here is the history of that edit - https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_(2019_India)&diff=pr...

Two persons from Kravali Wikimedians User Group are planning to apply. They are still under the impression that the last date is Nov 27th.

Regards,

Pavanaja

*From:* Wikimediaindia-l wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org *On Behalf Of *Krishna Chaitanya Velaga *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:45 PM *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [TWL Con - 2019 India] Call for Applications

Sorry for the typo

The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 November 2018.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:40 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

Tomorrow is the last day for applying to TWLCon - 2019 India. The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 September 2018.

If there is anyone who are interested to take part, kindly apply as soon as possible.

Event page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLC19IN

Application: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3

Thanks,

Krishna

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 1:33 AM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

I am happy to announce that the applications for "TWL Con (2019 India)"[1], a mini-conference around The Wikipedia Library (TWL)[2] and library outreach for Wikimedia projects in India are now open. Due to limited time, we're not able to spare much time for responses, kindly accept my apologies. The application period is 19–25 November 2018.

In brief about the event:

TWL helps active editors access reliable sources to improve Wikipedia. Among several other programs, it also helps knowledge professionals share their collections with the public. TWLCon (2019 India) is an upcoming conference to increase awareness about TWL to Wikimedians in India and discuss strategising TWL activities in India. This event has been primarily designed to understand the needs and document the insights from experienced Wikimedians about libraries/sources (references) in India. More about the event may be referred from the event page.

The application form is at: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3; last date 25 November 2018.

The event is to be held in the first or second weeks of Jan 2019 (tentative); Venue will be informed later.

The eligibility guidelines are applicable as mentioned here [3].

Kindly let me know if you have further questions.

Thanks

User:KCVelaga

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Hi Krishna,

I think the "we" is unclear here. Many of us Wikipedians would have run into librarians and we might all have networks to tap into for helping an event such as this. The status is marked as "Initial planning" - it would seem like that is what it ought to be and you might like to avoid Google Forms at this stage and ask for more open feedback on the scope itself. Even the dates could be changed - it would easily have been possible to choose a date that would commemorate say S R Ranganathan (9 August), which would also have made it possible to rally the message more effectively within librarian networks.

I recently met a librarian who was attending WikiCite 2018 but had no idea of the Wikimedia related activities in India. I think no attempt has been made here to reach out into rather disjoint networks, it needs far more participation, a much-larger organising "team" and a broader scope to be effective or useful. A meeting of a few Wikipedians would certainly be fun, and relatively cheap to organize but unlikely to be particularly useful in the long run. As far as I have seen, other than User:Gazal World and perhaps a couple of other Indians, there is no activity on the en:resource exchange and I do not know if such fora exist on other language wikipedias. I know that there are several Indian/Indic Wikipedians with access to JSTOR and other resources via TWL but I do not think there has not even been a survey of whether the grantees have made use of those resources.

best wishes Shyamal

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:23 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga kcvelaga@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Dhaval,

We are in a conversation with a few institutions, where academics, librarians and any other related personnel can take part in some discussions. We will be finalising it by the end of this week, definitely before notifying the participants.

Yes, applications will close today. We haven't fixed the event dates only to suit the venue, but to avoid clashes with Hindi WP conference, we fixed on 4-6 Jan. I made the change https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_%282019_India%29&type=revision&diff=18648338&oldid=18645643 this morning about the same.

Thanks, Krishna

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:12 PM Dhaval S. Vyas dsvyas@gmail.com wrote:

...

The whole planning seems to be half cooked, e.g. on the conference homepage it reads:

Venue & City: We're currently searching, let us know know if you have any good options; economical (free; library preferred), safe, well connected, easy of connecting with local library/librarian community.

And are we closing applications today? Should we not have a confirmed venue to begin with? Day before yesterday when I checked the page, even dates weren't confirm and there were couple of options projected there.

Regards, Dhaval Vyas

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018, 15:34 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvelaga@gmail.com wrote:

...

Hi Shyamal,

I've seen your message on the talk page. I'll give my reply soon.

Thanks,

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:37 PM Shyamal Lakshminarayanan < lshyamal@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I have noted on the talk page that this "event" appears to have been set up without much discussion. I would indeed even question the design of an event that precludes librarians who are outside the Wikimedia movement simply by requiring that one has a Wikimedia user name. Maybe Krishna can help some of us understand the process by which this event has been thought about?

best wishes Shyamal

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM pavanaja@vishvakannada.com wrote:

...

We were under the impression that the closing date is Nov 27, 2018. That’s what was mentioned in the website. Just now only I saw that you have changed that to Nov 25th only yesterday.

Here is the history of that edit - https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_(2019_India)&diff=pr...

Two persons from Kravali Wikimedians User Group are planning to apply. They are still under the impression that the last date is Nov 27th.

Regards,

Pavanaja

*From:* Wikimediaindia-l wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org *On Behalf Of *Krishna Chaitanya Velaga *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:45 PM *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [TWL Con - 2019 India] Call for Applications

Sorry for the typo

The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 November 2018.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:40 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

Tomorrow is the last day for applying to TWLCon - 2019 India. The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 September 2018.

If there is anyone who are interested to take part, kindly apply as soon as possible.

Event page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLC19IN

Application: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3

Thanks,

Krishna

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 1:33 AM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

I am happy to announce that the applications for "TWL Con (2019 India)"[1], a mini-conference around The Wikipedia Library (TWL)[2] and library outreach for Wikimedia projects in India are now open. Due to limited time, we're not able to spare much time for responses, kindly accept my apologies. The application period is 19–25 November 2018.

In brief about the event:

TWL helps active editors access reliable sources to improve Wikipedia. Among several other programs, it also helps knowledge professionals share their collections with the public. TWLCon (2019 India) is an upcoming conference to increase awareness about TWL to Wikimedians in India and discuss strategising TWL activities in India. This event has been primarily designed to understand the needs and document the insights from experienced Wikimedians about libraries/sources (references) in India. More about the event may be referred from the event page.

The application form is at: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3; last date 25 November 2018.

The event is to be held in the first or second weeks of Jan 2019 (tentative); Venue will be informed later.

The eligibility guidelines are applicable as mentioned here [3].

Kindly let me know if you have further questions.

Thanks

User:KCVelaga

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Dear all,

Following the comments, some new changes have been proposed for discussion on the event page. Please participate in the discussion at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:TWLCon_(2019_India)#Resturcturing_the_p... .

Thanks, Krishna

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:01 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Shyamal,

Firstly I am sorry to all about the event. I was not regular in updating that, so everything remained the way when I first created (basically from my sandox). It needs to be updated, I'll do that shorty. I've also replied to your talk page message, which I believe will answer your question from the immediate previous email, atleast to some extent.

I'll glad to continue the discussion there, so that it'll help to make it a better event. If there is anyone who would like to add to the program or discussion, please comment on the event talk page.

Thanks, Krishna

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:43 PM Shyamal Lakshminarayanan < lshyamal@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi Krishna,

I think the "we" is unclear here. Many of us Wikipedians would have run into librarians and we might all have networks to tap into for helping an event such as this. The status is marked as "Initial planning" - it would seem like that is what it ought to be and you might like to avoid Google Forms at this stage and ask for more open feedback on the scope itself. Even the dates could be changed - it would easily have been possible to choose a date that would commemorate say S R Ranganathan (9 August), which would also have made it possible to rally the message more effectively within librarian networks.

I recently met a librarian who was attending WikiCite 2018 but had no idea of the Wikimedia related activities in India. I think no attempt has been made here to reach out into rather disjoint networks, it needs far more participation, a much-larger organising "team" and a broader scope to be effective or useful. A meeting of a few Wikipedians would certainly be fun, and relatively cheap to organize but unlikely to be particularly useful in the long run. As far as I have seen, other than User:Gazal World and perhaps a couple of other Indians, there is no activity on the en:resource exchange and I do not know if such fora exist on other language wikipedias. I know that there are several Indian/Indic Wikipedians with access to JSTOR and other resources via TWL but I do not think there has not even been a survey of whether the grantees have made use of those resources.

best wishes Shyamal

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:23 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi Dhaval,

We are in a conversation with a few institutions, where academics, librarians and any other related personnel can take part in some discussions. We will be finalising it by the end of this week, definitely before notifying the participants.

Yes, applications will close today. We haven't fixed the event dates only to suit the venue, but to avoid clashes with Hindi WP conference, we fixed on 4-6 Jan. I made the change https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_%282019_India%29&type=revision&diff=18648338&oldid=18645643 this morning about the same.

Thanks, Krishna

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:12 PM Dhaval S. Vyas dsvyas@gmail.com wrote:

...

The whole planning seems to be half cooked, e.g. on the conference homepage it reads:

Venue & City: We're currently searching, let us know know if you have any good options; economical (free; library preferred), safe, well connected, easy of connecting with local library/librarian community.

And are we closing applications today? Should we not have a confirmed venue to begin with? Day before yesterday when I checked the page, even dates weren't confirm and there were couple of options projected there.

Regards, Dhaval Vyas

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018, 15:34 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvelaga@gmail.com wrote:

...

Hi Shyamal,

I've seen your message on the talk page. I'll give my reply soon.

Thanks,

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:37 PM Shyamal Lakshminarayanan < lshyamal@gmail.com> wrote:

...

I have noted on the talk page that this "event" appears to have been set up without much discussion. I would indeed even question the design of an event that precludes librarians who are outside the Wikimedia movement simply by requiring that one has a Wikimedia user name. Maybe Krishna can help some of us understand the process by which this event has been thought about?

best wishes Shyamal

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM pavanaja@vishvakannada.com wrote:

> We were under the impression that the closing date is Nov 27, 2018. > That’s what was mentioned in the website. Just now only I saw that you have > changed that to Nov 25th only yesterday. > > > > Here is the history of that edit - > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_(2019_India)&diff=pr... > > > > Two persons from Kravali Wikimedians User Group are planning to > apply. They are still under the impression that the last date is Nov 27 > th. > > > > Regards, > > Pavanaja > > > > *From:* Wikimediaindia-l < > wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> *On Behalf Of *Krishna > Chaitanya Velaga > *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:45 PM > *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [TWL Con - 2019 India] Call for > Applications > > > > Sorry for the typo > > > > The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 November 2018. > > > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:40 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < > kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Tomorrow is the last day for applying to TWLCon - 2019 India. The > applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 September 2018. > > > > If there is anyone who are interested to take part, kindly apply > as soon as possible. > > > > Event page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLC19IN > > Application: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3 > > > > Thanks, > > Krishna > > > > On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 1:33 AM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < > kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > I am happy to announce that the applications for "TWL Con (2019 > India)"[1], a mini-conference around The Wikipedia Library (TWL)[2] and > library outreach for Wikimedia projects in India are now open. Due to > limited time, we're not able to spare much time for responses, kindly > accept my apologies. The application period is 19–25 November 2018. > > > > In brief about the event: > > > > TWL helps active editors access reliable sources to improve > Wikipedia. Among several other programs, it also helps knowledge > professionals share their collections with the public. TWLCon (2019 India) > is an upcoming conference to increase awareness about TWL to Wikimedians in > India and discuss strategising TWL activities in India. This event has been > primarily designed to understand the needs and document the insights from > experienced Wikimedians about libraries/sources (references) in India. More > about the event may be referred from the event page. > > > > The application form is at: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3; > last date 25 November 2018. > > The event is to be held in the first or second weeks of Jan 2019 > (tentative); Venue will be informed later. > > The eligibility guidelines are applicable as mentioned here [3]. > > > > Kindly let me know if you have further questions. > > > > Thanks > > User:KCVelaga > > > > [1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLC19IN > > [2]: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLCon_(2019_India)#Eligibility_and_guidelin... > > [3]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

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Replied.

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 10:36 PM pavanaja@vishvakannada.com wrote:

Please read my comments here -

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:TWLCon_(2019_India)#Unprofessional_plan...

Regards,

Pavanaja

*From:* Wikimediaindia-l wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org *On Behalf Of *Krishna Chaitanya Velaga *Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 3:46 PM *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [TWL Con - 2019 India] Call for Applications

Dear all,

Following the comments, some new changes have been proposed for discussion on the event page.

Please participate in the discussion at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:TWLCon_(2019_India)#Resturcturing_the_p... .

Thanks,

Krishna

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 10:01 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Shyamal,

Firstly I am sorry to all about the event. I was not regular in updating that, so everything remained the way when I first created (basically from my sandox). It needs to be updated, I'll do that shorty. I've also replied to your talk page message, which I believe will answer your question from the immediate previous email, atleast to some extent.

I'll glad to continue the discussion there, so that it'll help to make it a better event. If there is anyone who would like to add to the program or discussion, please comment on the event talk page.

Thanks,

Krishna

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:43 PM Shyamal Lakshminarayanan < lshyamal@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Krishna,

I think the "we" is unclear here. Many of us Wikipedians would have run into librarians and we might all have networks to tap into for helping an event such as this. The status is marked as "Initial planning" - it would seem like that is what it ought to be and you might like to avoid Google Forms at this stage and ask for more open feedback on the scope itself. Even the dates could be changed - it would easily have been possible to choose a date that would commemorate say S R Ranganathan (9 August), which would also have made it possible to rally the message more effectively within librarian networks.

I recently met a librarian who was attending WikiCite 2018 but had no idea of the Wikimedia related activities in India. I think no attempt has been made here to reach out into rather disjoint networks, it needs far more participation, a much-larger organising "team" and a broader scope to be effective or useful. A meeting of a few Wikipedians would certainly be fun, and relatively cheap to organize but unlikely to be particularly useful in the long run. As far as I have seen, other than User:Gazal World and perhaps a couple of other Indians, there is no activity on the en:resource exchange and I do not know if such fora exist on other language wikipedias. I know that there are several Indian/Indic Wikipedians with access to JSTOR and other resources via TWL but I do not think there has not even been a survey of whether the grantees have made use of those resources.

best wishes

Shyamal

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:23 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Dhaval,

We are in a conversation with a few institutions, where academics, librarians and any other related personnel can take part in some discussions. We will be finalising it by the end of this week, definitely before notifying the participants.

Yes, applications will close today. We haven't fixed the event dates only to suit the venue, but to avoid clashes with Hindi WP conference, we fixed on 4-6 Jan. I made the change https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_%282019_India%29&type=revision&diff=18648338&oldid=18645643 this morning about the same.

Thanks,

Krishna

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 9:12 PM Dhaval S. Vyas dsvyas@gmail.com wrote:

The whole planning seems to be half cooked, e.g. on the conference homepage it reads:

Venue & City: We're currently searching, let us know know if you have any good options; economical (free; library preferred), safe, well connected, easy of connecting with local library/librarian community.

And are we closing applications today? Should we not have a confirmed venue to begin with? Day before yesterday when I checked the page, even dates weren't confirm and there were couple of options projected there.

Regards,

Dhaval Vyas

On Sun, 25 Nov 2018, 15:34 Krishna Chaitanya Velaga <kcvelaga@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shyamal,

I've seen your message on the talk page. I'll give my reply soon.

Thanks,

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:37 PM Shyamal Lakshminarayanan < lshyamal@gmail.com> wrote:

I have noted on the talk page that this "event" appears to have been set up without much discussion. I would indeed even question the design of an event that precludes librarians who are outside the Wikimedia movement simply by requiring that one has a Wikimedia user name. Maybe Krishna can help some of us understand the process by which this event has been thought about?

best wishes

Shyamal

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 8:04 PM pavanaja@vishvakannada.com wrote:

We were under the impression that the closing date is Nov 27, 2018. That’s what was mentioned in the website. Just now only I saw that you have changed that to Nov 25th only yesterday.

Here is the history of that edit - https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=TWLCon_(2019_India)&diff=pr...

Two persons from Kravali Wikimedians User Group are planning to apply. They are still under the impression that the last date is Nov 27th.

Regards,

Pavanaja

*From:* Wikimediaindia-l wikimediaindia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org *On Behalf Of *Krishna Chaitanya Velaga *Sent:* Saturday, November 24, 2018 8:45 PM *To:* wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [TWL Con - 2019 India] Call for Applications

Sorry for the typo

The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 November 2018.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 8:40 PM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

Tomorrow is the last day for applying to TWLCon - 2019 India. The applications will close at 23:59 hrs on 25 September 2018.

If there is anyone who are interested to take part, kindly apply as soon as possible.

Event page: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/TWLC19IN

Application: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3

Thanks,

Krishna

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018 at 1:33 AM Krishna Chaitanya Velaga < kcvelaga@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

I am happy to announce that the applications for "TWL Con (2019 India)"[1], a mini-conference around The Wikipedia Library (TWL)[2] and library outreach for Wikimedia projects in India are now open. Due to limited time, we're not able to spare much time for responses, kindly accept my apologies. The application period is 19–25 November 2018.

In brief about the event:

TWL helps active editors access reliable sources to improve Wikipedia. Among several other programs, it also helps knowledge professionals share their collections with the public. TWLCon (2019 India) is an upcoming conference to increase awareness about TWL to Wikimedians in India and discuss strategising TWL activities in India. This event has been primarily designed to understand the needs and document the insights from experienced Wikimedians about libraries/sources (references) in India. More about the event may be referred from the event page.

The application form is at: https://goo.gl/forms/NvwYttEeCFfl30rG3; last date 25 November 2018.

The event is to be held in the first or second weeks of Jan 2019 (tentative); Venue will be informed later.

The eligibility guidelines are applicable as mentioned here [3].

Kindly let me know if you have further questions.

Thanks

User:KCVelaga

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