Heya, fellow photographer and Commons Illustrator Vinoth shared this link on Facebook about Barkha Dutt and NDTV stealing images off the internet. The image in the article was copyrighted. Imaging the situation on Commons. Here's the link: http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/2011/12/wall-of-shame-barkha-dutts-ndtv-ste...
On 23 December 2011 20:11, Srikanth Ramakrishnan rsrikanth05@gmail.com wrote:
link on Facebook about Barkha Dutt and NDTV stealing images off the
Nothing was stolen. At best, a case of copyright infringement could made out. That said, the fair dealing provisions relating to current affairs might kick in too.
Can we please not refer to copyright violations as stealing? It isn't stealing - the original still exists.
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Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in copyright law? :)
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I dug up the Indian fair use law and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Fair_use#reproducti...
In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying licensing fees of the photograph?
-arun
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.orgwrote:
On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in copyright law? :)
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This is some gray area about fair use and some benefit of doubt can be given to media.
But what the Attribution required clause? Almost all of the media violate the "Attribution required" clause all the time.
-Sudhanwa
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.planemad@gmail.com wrote:
I dug up the Indian fair use law and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Fair_use#reproducti...
In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying licensing fees of the photograph?
-arun
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.org wrote:
On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in copyright law? :)
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On 23 December 2011 22:47, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa.com@gmail.com wrote:
But what the Attribution required clause? Almost all of the media violate the "Attribution required" clause all the time.
Technically, fair dealing provisions override the CC License provisions.
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On 23 December 2011 22:09, Arun Ganesh arun.planemad@gmail.com wrote:
In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying licensing fees of the photograph?
I have not looked at precedent around this but I'd think it's a fairly narrow exception.
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Indian Law is indeed scary. I know most pictures on the internet get flicked, Arun, being a victim of Times of India earlier, but this is a bit unfair? But then again, most of real life is.
Srikanth Ramakrishnan, a budding Jack Valentihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Valenti ?
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Indian Law is indeed scary. I know most pictures on the internet get flicked, Arun, being a victim of Times of India earlier, but this is a bit unfair? But then again, most of real life is.
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunganesh/4345797042/
If I remember correctly, Times of India later apologized for not giving attribution to while using one of Arun's CC licensed works on their newspaper.
-TC
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Indian Law is indeed scary. I know most pictures on the internet get flicked, Arun, being a victim of Times of India earlier, but this is a bit unfair? But then again, most of real life is.
-- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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Fair use applies when no other options available. In case of CC, options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio.
On 23/12/2011, Arun Ganesh arun.planemad@gmail.com wrote:
I dug up the Indian fair use law and found this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Fair_use#reproducti...
In this case, the aircraft had crashed and it was no longer possible to get such a photograph, but can a newspaper otherwise just pick up any photo off the internet and use it under fair use clause just to avoid paying licensing fees of the photograph?
-arun
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.orgwrote:
On 23 December 2011 21:43, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Gautam, thank you for correcting me, but I believe Digitally Stealing is also defined as Using Data Without Permission. Atleast that's the definition Microsoft uses for their Windows Genuine campaign. Forgive me if I'm wrong.
Since when did Microsoft become the arbiter of all that is sacred in copyright law? :)
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On 24 December 2011 10:38, Praveen Prakash me.praveen@gmail.com wrote:
Fair use applies when no other options available. In case of CC, options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio.
Ummm, no. Not to the best of my knowledge.
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On 24 December 2011 10:41, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.org wrote:
Fair use applies when no other options available. In case of CC, options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio.
Ummm, no. Not to the best of my knowledge.
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Do_Creative_Commons_licenses_affect_fair...
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Image response - http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.eatliver.com/img/2008/3428.jp...
Cheers!
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.orgwrote:
On 24 December 2011 10:41, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.org wrote:
Fair use applies when no other options available. In case of CC, options are wide open. If somebody decides to override a CC licensed file with a fair use, it is a clear Copy Vio.
Ummm, no. Not to the best of my knowledge.
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Do_Creative_Commons_licenses_affect_fair...
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Here's a piece that broadly covers the area.
http://www.mylaw.net/Article/Fair_use_and_reporting_news/
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