Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor. collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia. And I was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later my article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the copyright in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
Hi all,
I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia.
Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor. collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia. And I was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later my article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the copyright in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
-- Thanks & Regards, A.Radha Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna
User: Netha Hussain +1
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia.
Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor. collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia. And I was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later my article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the
copyright
in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
-- Thanks & Regards, A.Radha Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna
-- Netha Hussain *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs?
What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs made in India? It seems to me this is a very basic requirement, the lack of which (if correct) can be addressed by an RTI to the Ministry of Health, possible bringing about a solution within months.
A very similar action could happen with indigenous pharmacopeia, but there may be genuine difficulty with an authoritative source for the medicines/manufacturers/vendors/formulations, as the regulations for these may not be of the same order. Again, there is no logical reason why this situation should be permitted or encouraged to continue - it is in our own interest to see it improve. Oral citations may be the way forward.
2011/11/22 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswaprabha@gmail.com
User: Netha Hussain +1
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia.
Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor. collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia. And
I
was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later my article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the
copyright
in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
-- Thanks & Regards, A.Radha Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna
-- Netha Hussain *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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What about the wikidrugs.org? It uses the wikipedia logo too...
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Vickram Crishna vvcrishna@radiophony.comwrote:
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs?
What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs made in India? It seems to me this is a very basic requirement, the lack of which (if correct) can be addressed by an RTI to the Ministry of Health, possible bringing about a solution within months.
A very similar action could happen with indigenous pharmacopeia, but there may be genuine difficulty with an authoritative source for the medicines/manufacturers/vendors/formulations, as the regulations for these may not be of the same order. Again, there is no logical reason why this situation should be permitted or encouraged to continue - it is in our own interest to see it improve. Oral citations may be the way forward.
2011/11/22 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswaprabha@gmail.com
User: Netha Hussain +1
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia.
Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor. collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia.
And I
was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later
my
article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the
copyright
in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
-- Thanks & Regards, A.Radha Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna
-- Netha Hussain *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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It is not a WMF project, and it's a copyrighted site also.
Subha
On 22 November 2011 10:50, Vaishak Kallore vaikoovery@gmail.com wrote:
What about the wikidrugs.org? It uses the wikipedia logo too...
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Vickram Crishna < vvcrishna@radiophony.com> wrote:
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs?
What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs made in India? It seems to me this is a very basic requirement, the lack of which (if correct) can be addressed by an RTI to the Ministry of Health, possible bringing about a solution within months.
A very similar action could happen with indigenous pharmacopeia, but there may be genuine difficulty with an authoritative source for the medicines/manufacturers/vendors/formulations, as the regulations for these may not be of the same order. Again, there is no logical reason why this situation should be permitted or encouraged to continue - it is in our own interest to see it improve. Oral citations may be the way forward.
2011/11/22 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswaprabha@gmail.com
User: Netha Hussain +1
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia.
Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in
my
doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my
doctor.
collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia.
And I
was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later
my
article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am
sure
this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the
copyright
in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
-- Thanks & Regards, A.Radha Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna
-- Netha Hussain *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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Yes Subhashish,
It is not legal they using wikipedia logo (They are also using wikimedia projects style of domain name).
-RK
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Subhashish Panigrahi < psubhashish@gmail.com> wrote:
It is not a WMF project, and it's a copyrighted site also.
Subha
On 22 November 2011 10:50, Vaishak Kallore vaikoovery@gmail.com wrote:
What about the wikidrugs.org? It uses the wikipedia logo too...
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Vickram Crishna < vvcrishna@radiophony.com> wrote:
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs?
What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs made in India? It seems to me this is a very basic requirement, the lack of which (if correct) can be addressed by an RTI to the Ministry of Health, possible bringing about a solution within months.
A very similar action could happen with indigenous pharmacopeia, but there may be genuine difficulty with an authoritative source for the medicines/manufacturers/vendors/formulations, as the regulations for these may not be of the same order. Again, there is no logical reason why this situation should be permitted or encouraged to continue - it is in our own interest to see it improve. Oral citations may be the way forward.
2011/11/22 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswaprabha@gmail.com
User: Netha Hussain +1
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia.
Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in
my
doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my
doctor.
collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia.
And I
was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor.
later my
article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am
sure
this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the
copyright
in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
-- Thanks & Regards, A.Radha Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna
-- Netha Hussain *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally < radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes Subhashish,
It is not legal they using wikipedia logo (They are also using wikimedia projects style of domain name).
RK: Can you send a email to legal-en@wikimedia.org about the above issue.
Thanks Arjun
i am working as pharmacist in kerala govt service for the last 20 years..i think we can do a lot in this subject
On 22 November 2011 19:35, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunaraoc@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally < radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes Subhashish,
It is not legal they using wikipedia logo (They are also using wikimedia projects style of domain name).
RK: Can you send a email to legal-en@wikimedia.org about the above issue.
Thanks Arjun
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On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunaraoc@gmail.comwrote:
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:58 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally < radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes Subhashish,
It is not legal they using wikipedia logo (They are also using wikimedia projects style of domain name).
RK: Can you send a email to legal-en@wikimedia.org about the above issue.
I've been in touch with WMF's legal team and they've confirmed they're looking into and taking action on this.
Bishakha
This is something worth exploring.
The en.wikipedia do give details, but only on the basis of the scientific names. The brand specific names are not listed much, unless they are very famous. Having said that trying to capture the full list of drugs from manufacturers could be a very tedious task (esp considering they may keep on getting them updated/deleted/modified/renamed). More simple and trustworthy would be to expand whatever is available and add more generic/scientific compound name into wikipedia or a separate pharmacology/pharmacopeia section under wikipedia.
Oral citations and citations from SME's would be the way to go.
Abhi
On 22-Nov-2011 9:03 AM, Vickram Crishna wrote:
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs?
What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs made in India? It seems to me this is a very basic requirement, the lack of which (if correct) can be addressed by an RTI to the Ministry of Health, possible bringing about a solution within months.
A very similar action could happen with indigenous pharmacopeia, but there may be genuine difficulty with an authoritative source for the medicines/manufacturers/vendors/formulations, as the regulations for these may not be of the same order. Again, there is no logical reason why this situation should be permitted or encouraged to continue - it is in our own interest to see it improve. Oral citations may be the way forward.
2011/11/22 ViswaPrabha (?????????) <viswaprabha@gmail.com mailto:viswaprabha@gmail.com>
User: Netha Hussain +1 On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain <nethahussain@gmail.com <mailto:nethahussain@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia. Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it. Regards User: Netha Hussain On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally <radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com <mailto:radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi, > > > Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my > doctor's prescription). > Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. > I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information. > > http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ > http://www.webmd.com > > I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor. > collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia. And I > was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later my > article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product. > > I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding > composition, use, side effects of each drug. > Incubation of such project would be helpful. > > I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure > this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the copyright > in the bottom) > http://wikidrugs.org/ > > It is imitation of wikipedia. > > -- > Thanks & Regards, > A.Radha Krishna > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna > -- Netha Hussain *nethahussain.blogspot.com <http://nethahussain.blogspot.com> swethaambari.wordpress.com <http://swethaambari.wordpress.com>* _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l-- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com
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As a user of drug, I only know drugs by commercial name (say calpol). But may not know if you tell about paracetamal.
If doctor refers calpol, I would come to wiki project and search for calpol to understand what my doctor prescribed about.
-RK
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Abhilash abhilashunni@gmail.com wrote:
This is something worth exploring.
The en.wikipedia do give details, but only on the basis of the scientific names. The brand specific names are not listed much, unless they are very famous. Having said that trying to capture the full list of drugs from manufacturers could be a very tedious task (esp considering they may keep on getting them updated/deleted/modified/renamed). More simple and trustworthy would be to expand whatever is available and add more generic/scientific compound name into wikipedia or a separate pharmacology/pharmacopeia section under wikipedia.
Oral citations and citations from SME's would be the way to go.
Abhi
On 22-Nov-2011 9:03 AM, Vickram Crishna wrote:
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs?
What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs made in India? It seems to me this is a very basic requirement, the lack of which (if correct) can be addressed by an RTI to the Ministry of Health, possible bringing about a solution within months.
A very similar action could happen with indigenous pharmacopeia, but there may be genuine difficulty with an authoritative source for the medicines/manufacturers/vendors/formulations, as the regulations for these may not be of the same order. Again, there is no logical reason why this situation should be permitted or encouraged to continue - it is in our own interest to see it improve. Oral citations may be the way forward.
2011/11/22 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswaprabha@gmail.com
User: Netha Hussain +1
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia.
Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor. collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia.
And I
was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later
my
article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the
copyright
in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
-- Thanks & Regards, A.Radha Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna
-- Netha Hussain *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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Hello RK
Agreed
However, if its not very famous or if the brandname (eg here calpol or fepanil etc) is being used to identify a generic drug by the general public, capturing the list of names out there in the market would be pretty difficult. We can probably include all those possible and known brand names, but would have to probably expand on the scientific or generic drug or chemical name (which is always given in the blister pack or bottle or container)
Abhi
On 22-Nov-2011 10:16 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally wrote:
As a user of drug, I only know drugs by commercial name (say calpol). But may not know if you tell about paracetamal.
If doctor refers calpol, I would come to wiki project and search for calpol to understand what my doctor prescribed about.
-RK
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Abhilash <abhilashunni@gmail.com mailto:abhilashunni@gmail.com> wrote:
This is something worth exploring. The en.wikipedia do give details, but only on the basis of the scientific names. The brand specific names are not listed much, unless they are very famous. Having said that trying to capture the full list of drugs from manufacturers could be a very tedious task (esp considering they may keep on getting them updated/deleted/modified/renamed). More simple and trustworthy would be to expand whatever is available and add more generic/scientific compound name into wikipedia or a separate pharmacology/pharmacopeia section under wikipedia. Oral citations and citations from SME's would be the way to go. Abhi On 22-Nov-2011 9:03 AM, Vickram Crishna wrote:I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs? What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs made in India? It seems to me this is a very basic requirement, the lack of which (if correct) can be addressed by an RTI to the Ministry of Health, possible bringing about a solution within months. A very similar action could happen with indigenous pharmacopeia, but there may be genuine difficulty with an authoritative source for the medicines/manufacturers/vendors/formulations, as the regulations for these may not be of the same order. Again, there is no logical reason why this situation should be permitted or encouraged to continue - it is in our own interest to see it improve. Oral citations may be the way forward. 2011/11/22 ViswaPrabha (?????????) <viswaprabha@gmail.com <mailto:viswaprabha@gmail.com>> User: Netha Hussain +1 On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain <nethahussain@gmail.com <mailto:nethahussain@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi all, I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia. Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it. Regards User: Netha Hussain On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally <radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com <mailto:radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com>> wrote: > Hi, > > > Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in my > doctor's prescription). > Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. > I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information. > > http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN > http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ > http://www.webmd.com > > I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my doctor. > collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia. And I > was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later my > article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product. > > I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding > composition, use, side effects of each drug. > Incubation of such project would be helpful. > > I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am sure > this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. 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We have doctors in every village, town,city. If they can start contributing 1 hour a month, thsi should be pretty easy to do.
I agree with you. as you said, we can say calpol contains paracitamal. and xyz. and we can write a big article on paracitamal and the other xyz.
-RK
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Abhilash abhilashunni@gmail.com wrote:
Hello RK
Agreed
However, if its not very famous or if the brandname (eg here calpol or fepanil etc) is being used to identify a generic drug by the general public, capturing the list of names out there in the market would be pretty difficult. We can probably include all those possible and known brand names, but would have to probably expand on the scientific or generic drug or chemical name (which is always given in the blister pack or bottle or container)
Abhi
On 22-Nov-2011 10:16 PM, RadhaKrishna Arvapally wrote:
As a user of drug, I only know drugs by commercial name (say calpol). But may not know if you tell about paracetamal.
If doctor refers calpol, I would come to wiki project and search for calpol to understand what my doctor prescribed about.
-RK
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Abhilash abhilashunni@gmail.com wrote:
This is something worth exploring.
The en.wikipedia do give details, but only on the basis of the scientific names. The brand specific names are not listed much, unless they are very famous. Having said that trying to capture the full list of drugs from manufacturers could be a very tedious task (esp considering they may keep on getting them updated/deleted/modified/renamed). More simple and trustworthy would be to expand whatever is available and add more generic/scientific compound name into wikipedia or a separate pharmacology/pharmacopeia section under wikipedia.
Oral citations and citations from SME's would be the way to go.
Abhi
On 22-Nov-2011 9:03 AM, Vickram Crishna wrote:
I am not familiar with the online availability of pharmaceutical information of drugs made in India. Do websites of manufacturers not list the drugs they make? Is there any issue with citing the manufacturer's list of drugs?
What about online pharmacopeia? Do Indian associations not list the drugs made in India? It seems to me this is a very basic requirement, the lack of which (if correct) can be addressed by an RTI to the Ministry of Health, possible bringing about a solution within months.
A very similar action could happen with indigenous pharmacopeia, but there may be genuine difficulty with an authoritative source for the medicines/manufacturers/vendors/formulations, as the regulations for these may not be of the same order. Again, there is no logical reason why this situation should be permitted or encouraged to continue - it is in our own interest to see it improve. Oral citations may be the way forward.
2011/11/22 ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) viswaprabha@gmail.com
User: Netha Hussain +1
On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 23:42, Netha Hussain nethahussain@gmail.comwrote:
Hi all,
I am a 3rd year student of medicine from Kerala.Though I work on ml.wikipedia, I have recently started editing pharmacology-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have noticed the same insufficiency you mentioned. On Wikipedia, we do have articles covering various drugs their actions and side effects, but most often they are not useful to the public as these articles do not contain the proprietary(trade) names of the drugs. Most of the trade names listed in Wikipedia are those from the US or UK. Presently, the state of things in en.wikipedia is such that if an Indian trade name is added to the Wikipedia page of a drug, it gets deleted soon because of notability reasons. People often search for the trade names on Wikipedia as they do not know the generic names of the same. The end result is that those looking for information about a particular drug on google end up reaching sites other than Wikipedia.
Projects of this kind are something I am looking forward to. Though I am still a student, I would like to get invloved in this project(or similar projects) if ever we plan to launch it.
Regards User: Netha Hussain
On 11/20/11, RadhaKrishna Arvapally radhakrishna.arvapally@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
Some time back I was looking for some drug information (which was in
my
doctor's prescription). Then I was thinking why that information was not there in wikipedia. I found few wonderful sites which gives that kind of information.
http://www.mims.com/index.aspx?Ctry=IN http://www.nlm.nih.gov/ http://www.webmd.com
I searched on google for information on a drug prescribed by my
doctor.
collected lots of info from various sources and added to wikipedia.
And I
was hoping I can add few more drugs when ever I visit a doctor. later
my
article was deleted quoting advertising of my own product.
I was thinking some kind of wikiDrug would help in understanding composition, use, side effects of each drug. Incubation of such project would be helpful.
I found the following website which use wikipedia's logo too. I am
sure
this is nothing to do with wikimedia foundation project. (see the
copyright
in the bottom) http://wikidrugs.org/
It is imitation of wikipedia.
-- Thanks & Regards, A.Radha Krishna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Arkrishna
-- Netha Hussain *nethahussain.blogspot.com swethaambari.wordpress.com*
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