Hi Friends,
Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points.
I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011.
More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
I seek your support and participation in this initiative.
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc
I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin?
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunaraoc@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Friends,
Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points.
I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011.
More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
I seek your support and participation in this initiative.
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc
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--------------------- Sent via mobile On Dec 12, 2011 7:18 PM, "Ashwin Baindur" ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin?
There has been some background work about the proposal and sharing of current status. The real work is about to begin.
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala
Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile devices.
On 12/12/2011, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin?
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunaraoc@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Friends,
Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points.
I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011.
More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
I seek your support and participation in this initiative.
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan < parakara.ghoda@gmail.com> wrote:
Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile devices.
Indic support from rendering and input method point of view is currently available on some mobile devices. Some virtual keyboards are using phonetic approach which use English keyboard. Some others are following an adhoc modification to INSCRIPT. There are some vendors with patented solutions for 12 key interface. But there is no standard of virtual keyboard for touch interface, which makes it easy even for a class 1 student of indic language to type his name for example. This initiative is aimed at bridging that gap. Once the standard is approved, indic support in a standardized way should be available on most smart phones and tablets. Since it will be packaged as mobile app, it can be deployed on even older version of smart phones with touch interface.
Hope this helps.
Cheers Arjun
On 12/12/2011, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
I'm a bit confused Arjuna, is the study over or yet to begin?
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunaraoc@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Friends,
Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other
languages,
with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch
user
interface at lower price points.
I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard
standard.
I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011.
More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
I seek your support and participation in this initiative.
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc
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Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on December 10th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore
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On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile devices.
Traditionally, on the desktop devices, Indic support has generally meant the ability to do the following:
- display/render - print - input
The underlying software architecture, which is fashionably called the "plumbing", has been present and keeps lock-step with the currently available and published standards and specifications.
Input forms an interesting aspect because of the diverse nature of possibilities provided and requested - an example could be the variety of the keyboard layouts available. While a myriad variety in the keyboard layouts is possible on a standard physical keyboard (hardware), such variety is a bit difficult to attain on the mobile device hardware having an actual physical keyboard. Even in the case of mobile devices with an on-screen keyboard, the ability to standardize on a specific set of layouts, based on various factors (eg. computation of the highest used key combinations) would be of immense use.
At this stage, the only aspect I'd request to be made clear is how does one participate in the effort. For example, reading through the current list of participants I don't see Google (as an example). It would be nicer to have distributions participate because they allow the quickest path to reference implementation of standards.
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:39 AM, sankarshan foss.mailinglists@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
Arjuna, while I don't really understand what is the ultimate aim, I sincerely hope that this will result in Indic support across mobile devices.
Traditionally, on the desktop devices, Indic support has generally meant the ability to do the following:
- display/render
- input
The underlying software architecture, which is fashionably called the "plumbing", has been present and keeps lock-step with the currently available and published standards and specifications.
Input forms an interesting aspect because of the diverse nature of possibilities provided and requested - an example could be the variety of the keyboard layouts available. While a myriad variety in the keyboard layouts is possible on a standard physical keyboard (hardware), such variety is a bit difficult to attain on the mobile device hardware having an actual physical keyboard. Even in the case of mobile devices with an on-screen keyboard, the ability to standardize on a specific set of layouts, based on various factors (eg. computation of the highest used key combinations) would be of immense use.
Thanks for the nice explanation.
At this stage, the only aspect I'd request to be made clear is how does one participate in the effort. For example, reading through the current list of participants I don't see Google (as an example). It would be nicer to have distributions participate because they allow the quickest path to reference implementation of standards.
I have reached out to most people who have interest in this area. We will be publicizing this initiative more vigorously, now that the project is approved.
The proposed mode of standard development is open for participation by every one. Though for the final balloting and to decide on any alternatives, IEEE-SA membership will be needed, which again is being offered at reduced rates for Indians. The official Work Group will be kicked off in January. I request interested people to subscribe to the mailing list of the initiativehttp://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=indic-input-stds&A=1 .
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala
Hoi, The Wikimedia Localisation team has been very much active in this field and we have implemented the inscript one standard as well as other existing keyboard methods. We have met with CDAC and Red Hat about our current Narayam implementations and our and their future plans. Our notion is that using standard compliant and freely licensed technology is the way forward.
On our road map there are the unknowns of how to support smart phones, tablet computers, not only for the official languages of India but for all of them including scripts ..
We are very happy to participate in any project that has as its goal to create standardised input methods for any kind of device. We can provide an environment for testing; we can support experimental keyboard methods side by side at translatewiki.net. When things become stable, we are quite happy to expose the world to new standards on the WMF wikis.
Is this the kind of support that would help you ? Thanks, Gerard
On 12 December 2011 14:34, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunaraoc@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Friends,
Indic languages have an opportunity to gain their rightful place in the computing and communications world on par with English or other languages, with the availability of smart phones and tablet computers with touch user interface at lower price points.
I have been involved in leading a study group on this topic for the last one year to develop the project proposal for virtual keyboard standard. I am glad to report that the project for development of standard has been approved by IEEE-SA on Dec 8, 2011.
More details on this initiative are available at https://mentor.ieee.org/stds-india/bp/Indic_Virtual_Keyboards
I seek your support and participation in this initiative.
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala WG Chair, P1908.1 Virtual keyboard standard for Indic languages Twitter id: @arjunaraoc http://twitter.com/#%21/arjunaraoc
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Hi,
Response in line..
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.comwrote:
Hoi, The Wikimedia Localisation team has been very much active in this field and we have implemented the inscript one standard as well as other existing keyboard methods. We have met with CDAC and Red Hat about our current Narayam implementations and our and their future plans. Our notion is that using standard compliant and freely licensed technology is the way forward.
Thanks for the update.
On our road map there are the unknowns of how to support smart phones, tablet computers, not only for the official languages of India but for all of them including scripts ..
We are very happy to participate in any project that has as its goal to create standardised input methods for any kind of device. We can provide an environment for testing; we can support experimental keyboard methods side by side at translatewiki.net. When things become stable, we are quite happy to expose the world to new standards on the WMF wikis.
Is this the kind of support that would help you ?
Certainly! It will be a great opportunity to come up with virtual keyboard as required for each language with participation of the relevant users. Active indic language wikipedians can play a key role in this initiative.
The proposed mode of standard development is open for participation by every one. Though for the final balloting and to decide on any alternatives, IEEE-SA membership will be needed, which again is being offered at reduced rates for Indians. The official Work Group will be kick off in January. I request interested people to subscribe to the mailing list of the initiativehttp://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=indic-input-stds&A=1 .
Cheers Arjuna Rao Chavala
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