Hi all,
The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is interesting.
Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in ml.wiki projects.
One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active contributors are present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities.
How is the situation for other Indic Wikis?
It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach and increasing contributor activity.
Regards,
Ravi
Ravi An apprx figures
# The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which includes newcomers around 60% # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians
regards Rameshng
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is interesting.
Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in ml.wiki projects.
One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active contributors are present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities.
How is the situation for other Indic Wikis?
It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach and increasing contributor activity.
Regards,
Ravi
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Thats quite high.. We don't see that many even in our English meetups.. Nor did we have that many in Samskrit.. Regards,
On 17 April 2010 22:18, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.com wrote:
Ravi An apprx figures
# The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which includes newcomers around 60% # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians
regards Rameshng
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is interesting.
Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in ml.wiki projects.
One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active contributors
are
present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities.
How is the situation for other Indic Wikis?
It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach and increasing contributor activity.
Regards,
Ravi
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Ramesh,
That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also quite elaborate. well done.
I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits??
Thanks,
Ravi
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.com wrote:
Ravi An apprx figures
# The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which includes newcomers around 60% # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians
regards Rameshng
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is interesting.
Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in ml.wiki projects.
One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active contributors
are
present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities.
How is the situation for other Indic Wikis?
It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach and increasing contributor activity.
Regards,
Ravi
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Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits
Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like *edits/article*, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so on.
- As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall collaboration. Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, images, and so on helped in increasing the article count. - We are away from increasing the article count by creating one-liners. Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase. - Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with number of edita more than 1000. http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&... 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000.
All these have contributed depth of the wiki.
We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the fundamental information about a topic.
We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.*
We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url *itself.
We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices.
There are more things. I will write about that some time later.
As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Ramesh,
That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also quite elaborate. well done.
I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits??
Thanks,
Ravi
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.com wrote:
Ravi An apprx figures
# The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which includes newcomers around 60% # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians
regards Rameshng
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is interesting.
Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in ml.wiki projects.
One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active contributors
are
present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities.
How is the situation for other Indic Wikis?
It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach and increasing contributor activity.
Regards,
Ravi
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Hi Shiju,
Good to know. I agree that until each wiki should become self-reliant without the need to refer en wiki for everything.
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
Thanks,
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk
pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits
Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like *edits/article *, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so on.
- As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall collaboration.
Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, images, and so on helped in increasing the article count.
- We are away from increasing the article count by creating one-liners.
Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase.
- Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of
active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with number of edita more than 1000. http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...http://toolserver.org/%7Ejunaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&show=users&max=50&offset=0Atleast 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000.
All these have contributed depth of the wiki.
We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the fundamental information about a topic.
We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.*
We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url *itself.
We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices.
There are more things. I will write about that some time later.
As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Ramesh,
That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also quite elaborate. well done.
I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits??
Thanks,
Ravi
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.com wrote:
Ravi An apprx figures
# The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which includes newcomers around 60% # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians
regards Rameshng
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is
interesting.
Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in ml.wiki projects.
One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active
contributors are
present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities.
How is the situation for other Indic Wikis?
It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach and increasing contributor activity.
Regards,
Ravi
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Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Prettyurl
Please see the source code of that template.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Shiju,
Good to know. I agree that until each wiki should become self-reliant without the need to refer en wiki for everything.
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
Thanks,
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk
pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits
Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like * edits/article*, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so on.
- As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall collaboration.
Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, images, and so on helped in increasing the article count.
- We are away from increasing the article count by creating
one-liners. Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase.
- Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of
active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with number of edita more than 1000. http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...http://toolserver.org/%7Ejunaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&show=users&max=50&offset=0Atleast 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000.
All these have contributed depth of the wiki.
We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the fundamental information about a topic.
We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.*
We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url *itself.
We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices.
There are more things. I will write about that some time later.
As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Ramesh,
That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also quite elaborate. well done.
I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits??
Thanks,
Ravi
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.com wrote:
Ravi An apprx figures
# The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which includes newcomers around 60% # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians
regards Rameshng
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is
interesting.
Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in ml.wiki projects.
One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active
contributors are
present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities.
How is the situation for other Indic Wikis?
It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach
and
increasing contributor activity.
Regards,
Ravi
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Thanks Shiju. Should see if we can make sense from the malayalam page. Else, an english tutorial will be appreciated :)
Interestingly, the contributor profile for Ta Wiki is quite similar to ml wiki
http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Prettyurl
Please see the source code of that template.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Shiju,
Good to know. I agree that until each wiki should become self-reliant without the need to refer en wiki for everything.
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
Thanks,
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in
talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits
Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like * edits/article*, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so on.
- As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall collaboration.
Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, images, and so on helped in increasing the article count.
- We are away from increasing the article count by creating
one-liners. Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase.
- Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of
active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with number of edita more than 1000. http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...http://toolserver.org/%7Ejunaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&show=users&max=50&offset=0Atleast 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000.
All these have contributed depth of the wiki.
We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the fundamental information about a topic.
We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.*
We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url *itself.
We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices.
There are more things. I will write about that some time later.
As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Ramesh,
That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also quite elaborate. well done.
I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits??
Thanks,
Ravi
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.comwrote:
Ravi An apprx figures
# The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which includes newcomers around 60% # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians
regards Rameshng
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is
interesting.
Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors
in
ml.wiki projects.
One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active
contributors are
present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities.
How is the situation for other Indic Wikis?
It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach
and
increasing contributor activity.
Regards,
Ravi
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Added the template in Tamil Wiki and created one pretty url for the article malayalam. For example see, http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam
Minor tweaking of template is required. We will help to fix it.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Shiju. Should see if we can make sense from the malayalam page. Else, an english tutorial will be appreciated :)
Interestingly, the contributor profile for Ta Wiki is quite similar to ml wiki
http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...http://toolserver.org/%7Ejunaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&show=users&max=50&offset=0
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Prettyurl
Please see the source code of that template.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Shiju,
Good to know. I agree that until each wiki should become self-reliant without the need to refer en wiki for everything.
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
Thanks,
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in
talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits
Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like * edits/article*, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so on.
- As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall
collaboration. Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, images, and so on helped in increasing the article count.
- We are away from increasing the article count by creating
one-liners. Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase.
- Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of
active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with number of edita more than 1000. http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...http://toolserver.org/%7Ejunaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&show=users&max=50&offset=0Atleast 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000.
All these have contributed depth of the wiki.
We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the fundamental information about a topic.
We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.*
We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url * itself.
We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices.
There are more things. I will write about that some time later.
As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Ramesh,
That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also quite elaborate. well done.
I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits??
Thanks,
Ravi
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.comwrote:
Ravi An apprx figures
# The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which includes newcomers around 60% # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians
regards Rameshng
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote: > Hi all, > > The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is interesting. > > Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors in > ml.wiki projects. > > One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active contributors are > present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities. > > How is the situation for other Indic Wikis? > > It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like > http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach and > increasing contributor activity. > > Regards, > > Ravi > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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Shiju,
Thanks for adding the template. I have notified the village pump about this.
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Added the template in Tamil Wiki and created one pretty url for the article malayalam. For example see, http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam
Minor tweaking of template is required. We will help to fix it.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Shiju. Should see if we can make sense from the malayalam page. Else, an english tutorial will be appreciated :)
Interestingly, the contributor profile for Ta Wiki is quite similar to ml wiki
http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...http://toolserver.org/%7Ejunaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&show=users&max=50&offset=0
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Prettyurl
Please see the source code of that template.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Shiju,
Good to know. I agree that until each wiki should become self-reliant without the need to refer en wiki for everything.
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
Thanks,
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in
talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits
Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like * edits/article*, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so on.
- As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall
collaboration. Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, images, and so on helped in increasing the article count.
- We are away from increasing the article count by creating
one-liners. Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase.
- Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of
active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with number of edita more than 1000. http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...http://toolserver.org/%7Ejunaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&show=users&max=50&offset=0Atleast 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000.
All these have contributed depth of the wiki.
We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the fundamental information about a topic.
We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.*
We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url *itself.
We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices.
There are more things. I will write about that some time later.
As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Ramesh,
That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also quite elaborate. well done.
I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits??
Thanks,
Ravi
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.comwrote:
> Ravi > An apprx figures > > # The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which > includes newcomers around 60% > # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the > attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians > > regards > Rameshng > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is > interesting. > > > > Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors > in > > ml.wiki projects. > > > > One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active > contributors are > > present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities. > > > > How is the situation for other Indic Wikis? > > > > It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like > > http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach > and > > increasing contributor activity. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ravi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >
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looks like that got deleted.
Regards, Jyothis.
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Added the template in Tamil Wiki and created one pretty url for the article malayalam. For example see, http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam
Minor tweaking of template is required. We will help to fix it.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Shiju. Should see if we can make sense from the malayalam page. Else, an english tutorial will be appreciated :)
Interestingly, the contributor profile for Ta Wiki is quite similar to ml wiki
http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Prettyurl
Please see the source code of that template.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Shiju,
Good to know. I agree that until each wiki should become self-reliant without the need to refer en wiki for everything.
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
Thanks,
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in
talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits
Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like * edits/article*, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so on.
- As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall
collaboration. Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, images, and so on helped in increasing the article count.
- We are away from increasing the article count by creating
one-liners. Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase.
- Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of
active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with number of edita more than 1000. http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&... 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000.
All these have contributed depth of the wiki.
We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the fundamental information about a topic.
We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.*
We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url *itself.
We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices.
There are more things. I will write about that some time later.
As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Ramesh,
That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also quite elaborate. well done.
I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits??
Thanks,
Ravi
On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.comwrote:
> Ravi > An apprx figures > > # The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which > includes newcomers around 60% > # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the > attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians > > regards > Rameshng > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is > interesting. > > > > Would like to know what percentage of them are regular contributors > in > > ml.wiki projects. > > > > One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active > contributors are > > present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities. > > > > How is the situation for other Indic Wikis? > > > > It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like > > http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on outreach > and > > increasing contributor activity. > > > > Regards, > > > > Ravi > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Jyothis Edathoot je@jyothis.net wrote:
looks like that got deleted.
Regards, Jyothis.
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Added the template in Tamil Wiki and created one pretty url for the article malayalam. For example see, http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam
Minor tweaking of template is required. We will help to fix it.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Thanks Shiju. Should see if we can make sense from the malayalam page. Else, an english tutorial will be appreciated :)
Interestingly, the contributor profile for Ta Wiki is quite similar to ml wiki
http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&...
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Prettyurl
Please see the source code of that template.
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Shiju,
Good to know. I agree that until each wiki should become self-reliant without the need to refer en wiki for everything.
Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available?
Thanks,
Ravi
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline@gmail.com
wrote:
Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation > in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits >
Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like * edits/article*, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so on.
- As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall
collaboration. Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, images, and so on helped in increasing the article count.
- We are away from increasing the article count by creating
one-liners. Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase.
- Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of
active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with number of edita more than 1000. http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&... 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000.
All these have contributed depth of the wiki.
We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the fundamental information about a topic.
We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.*
We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url *itself.
We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices.
There are more things. I will write about that some time later.
As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later.
Shiju
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.comwrote:
> Ramesh, > > That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also > quite elaborate. well done. > > I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count > be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, > collaborative articles, regular copy edits?? > > Thanks, > > Ravi > > > On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G rameshng@gmail.comwrote: > >> Ravi >> An apprx figures >> >> # The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which >> includes newcomers around 60% >> # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the >> attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians >> >> regards >> Rameshng >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com >> wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is >> interesting. >> > >> > Would like to know what percentage of them are regular >> contributors in >> > ml.wiki projects. >> > >> > One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active >> contributors are >> > present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities. >> > >> > How is the situation for other Indic Wikis? >> > >> > It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like >> > http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on >> outreach and >> > increasing contributor activity. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Ravi >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> > > > > -- > 1 GB @ 10 USD per year web hosting. > > http://milkhost.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list > Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l > >
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