Dear All,
The A2K team is organising an IRC on 13th May 2012, Monday from 8.30pm - 9.30 pm on: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#wikimedia-in.
The main agenda for IRC is to discuss the A2K Work Plan for the year 2013-2014 [1] that we had shared with you earlier. We'd like to hear comments/suggestions from as many of you as possible. This mail is to invite each one of you to join us for this IRC and help improvise our work plan. Just incase you'd like to join but cannot due to prior commitments please drop me a private message and we'll arrange a call with your separately.
Looking forward to see you tomorrow at IRC!
Thanks Nitika Tandon Program Manager Access to Knowledge The Centre for Internet & Society
[1] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/Work_plan_April_201...
Looking forward to see you tomorrow at IRC!
Hi Nitika, Wanted to be there at the meeting could not make it , is there a transcript available for people who are curious to know what happening in the meeting ?
-Satya fossevents.in
Hi All,
Please find attached log of the IRC chat.
Thank you to all those who took out time to give us some feedback. And for those who've written to us separately we'll aim to organise a one-on-one with you before the end of this week.
Thanks Nitika Tandon Program Manager Access to Knowledge The Centre for Internet & Society
On 13-May-2013, at 11:07 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:
Looking forward to see you tomorrow at IRC! Hi Nitika, Wanted to be there at the meeting could not make it , is there a transcript available for people who are curious to know what happening in the meeting ?
-Satya fossevents.in
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Sorry Nitika, the format provided gives no line breaks or paragraph breaks and its not readable. Please provide in a plain text file format, readable in DOS/Windows.
Ashwin
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Nitika Tandon nitika@cis-india.orgwrote:
Hi All,
Please find attached log of the IRC chat.
Thank you to all those who took out time to give us some feedback. And for those who've written to us separately we'll aim to organise a one-on-one with you before the end of this week.
Thanks Nitika Tandon Program Manager Access to Knowledgehttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge The Centre for Internet & Society
On 13-May-2013, at 11:07 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:
Looking forward to see you tomorrow at IRC!
Hi Nitika, Wanted to be there at the meeting could not make it , is there a transcript available for people who are curious to know what happening in the meeting ?
-Satya fossevents.in
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Hello Sir, I've captured screenshots of full IRC. Can I share it here?
Thanks And Regards, Abhinav Garule.
yes abhinav, you can put the screenshot I was not able to view the attachment.
Yohann
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry Nitika, the format provided gives no line breaks or paragraph breaks and its not readable. Please provide in a plain text file format, readable in DOS/Windows.
The file seems to be a text one indeed. Not the most elegant way of doing this, but pasted below is the content of the attachment (as picked off the archives)
[2013-05-13 20:22:42] [INFO] Now logging to file:///C:/Users/a2kpd/AppData/Roaming/Mozilla/Firefox/Profiles/5gpcopu5.default/chatzilla/logs/freenode/channels/%23wikimedia-in.2013-05-13.log. [2013-05-13 20:30:58] -->| arjunaraoc (3b5c978c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.92.151.140) has joined #wikimedia-in [2013-05-13 20:31:29] |<-- Leonardous has left freenode (Quit: Page closed) [2013-05-13 20:32:48] -->| Abhinav (75c3098a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.195.9.138) has joined #wikimedia-in [2013-05-13 20:34:19] <Abhinav> Good evening every one... [2013-05-13 20:34:30] <Abhinav> Shall we start now?? [2013-05-13 20:35:59] <Vishnu_A2K> @All. Thank you for joining us. [2013-05-13 20:36:21] <Theo10011> Abhinav - who are you? and start what? [2013-05-13 20:36:30] -->| subha (7aa2a347@gateway/web/freenode/ip.122.162.163.71) has joined #wikimedia-in [2013-05-13 20:36:45] <subha> Hi All [2013-05-13 20:36:59] <Vishnu_A2K> @All-Welcome! [2013-05-13 20:37:25] <Vishnu_A2K> Thank you for joining-in to share your feedback on the A2K Work Plans. [2013-05-13 20:38:09] <Vishnu_A2K> Is this Agenda good? [2013-05-13 20:38:13] -->| subha1 (~chatzilla@122.162.163.71) has joined #wikimedia-in [2013-05-13 20:38:39] |<-- subha has left freenode (Client Quit) [2013-05-13 20:39:11] <Vishnu_A2K> 5 mins - Arrive at topics that you would like to discuss around the A2K Work Plans [2013-05-13 20:39:44] <Vishnu_A2K> next 50 mins - we can take up each topic and discuss [2013-05-13 20:39:53] <Vishnu_A2K> @All - Is this good? [2013-05-13 20:40:09] <Vishnu_A2K> @All - would like to suggest a different structure? [2013-05-13 20:41:04] <Vishnu_A2K> @Abhinav - Any specific topics you would like to discuss? [2013-05-13 20:41:27] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna - Please suggest if you have any topics in mind [2013-05-13 20:41:48] <arjunaraoc> hi Vishnu_A2K [2013-05-13 20:41:52] <Vishnu_A2K> @Barras - Please suggest [2013-05-13 20:42:16] <Vishnu_A2K> @Theo10011 - Please suggest if you have any specific topic to discuss [2013-05-13 20:42:19] <Theo10011> Why are you pinging everyone individually? [2013-05-13 20:42:21] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna - Hi. [2013-05-13 20:42:25] <Theo10011> Barras and I are here because we're ops [2013-05-13 20:42:35] <arjunaraoc> I have given my feedback on the meta. Some of it was addressed. Would like to get response on others. [2013-05-13 20:42:43] <Vishnu_A2K> @Theo10011 - Ok. [2013-05-13 20:43:00] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna-Sure. [2013-05-13 20:43:51] <Abhinav> concept of Wikipedia Student Partners:- Wiki Student Partners are students from colleges who will help students in solving their queries and keeping follow ups of “How to edit on Wikipedia?” [2013-05-13 20:44:32] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna-'Approach for Village/Block/District project' on Odia Work Plan [2013-05-13 20:44:47] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna-time frame for the Pilot [2013-05-13 20:44:57] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna-Anything else? [2013-05-13 20:45:25] <arjunaraoc> Vishnu_A2K: yes [2013-05-13 20:45:55] -->| Nitika (3bb14370@gateway/web/freenode/ip.59.177.67.112) has joined #wikimedia-in [2013-05-13 20:45:58] <Abhinav> can we start this wiki student partner concept?? in this pilot project?? [2013-05-13 20:46:13] <Vishnu_A2K> @Abhinav-Ok. I think this has been addressed specifically in each of the language work plans, but we will come to this at the end and take any specific questions/queries you may have. OK? [2013-05-13 20:46:21] <arjunaraoc> Vishnu_A2K: you can also summarise outcome of discussions of these on language wikis [2013-05-13 20:46:46] <Abhinav> ok [2013-05-13 20:46:52] -->| sip (73fa46db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.250.70.219) has joined #wikimedia-in [2013-05-13 20:47:20] |<-- sip has left freenode (Client Quit) [2013-05-13 20:47:20] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: We will be doing on Meta in detail by May 15th. Is it ok? [2013-05-13 20:47:53] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: Also put it on Language wiki VPs [2013-05-13 20:48:01] <Nitika> @Arjuna - we'll summarise all the feedback from the community on meta by the 15th [2013-05-13 20:49:21] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: We have 3 points so far. Anything else to be added. [2013-05-13 20:49:27] <arjunaraoc> Vishnu_A2K: if you share any update as of now, irc could be useful to trigger some more discussion [2013-05-13 20:49:37] -->| sipun (73fa46db@gateway/web/freenode/ip.115.250.70.219) has joined #wikimedia-in [2013-05-13 20:50:07] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: OK. Sure +1 [2013-05-13 20:52:34] <subha1> Shall we start discussing the first point for today's agenda?: "Approach for Village/Block/District project' on Odia Work Plan" [2013-05-13 20:53:17] <sipun> yes [2013-05-13 20:53:37] <arjunaraoc> sure [2013-05-13 20:55:08] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: Arjuna based on the experience from Telugu Wikipedia questioned how effective the Village/Block/District project' on Odia Wiki will be. [2013-05-13 20:55:41] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: Arjuna's main concern was about creating stub class articles. [2013-05-13 20:56:56] <subha1> Arjuna and Ansuman, to address your questions on Meta about the Odia village project, the plan states that we'd involve more wikipedians to create start class articles and not bot-generated stub articles. [2013-05-13 20:58:22] <Vishnu_A2K> Also unlike the Telugu Wikipeida Village project (done in 2007) now we have many of the data openly available which can be used to create good articles on Villages/blocks/districts. [2013-05-13 20:59:00] <arjunaraoc> subha1: My suggestion is to go for a top down approach. focus on districts for few months. review the progress, assess whether the next level will be worthwhile. [2013-05-13 20:59:32] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: +1 [2013-05-13 20:59:52] <arjunaraoc> Thx Vishnu_A2K [2013-05-13 21:00:03] <arjunaraoc> what does subha1 think? [2013-05-13 21:00:27] <subha1> arjunaraoc: Yes, the list of districts and articles on the districts are created [2013-05-13 21:01:41] <Vishnu_A2K> @Subha1: Do we know that these district articles are exhaustive? [2013-05-13 21:02:11] <arjunaraoc> subha1: I do not know Odia. so can't understand their present quality. I wanted to share the learning from Telugu. [2013-05-13 21:02:46] <subha1> arjunaraoc: and Vishnu_A2K, yes they are start class articles [2013-05-13 21:02:56] <subha1> and now the community actively wants to take it to the further level and create articles about the villages by involving more wikipedians, this was what the communities from Cuttack and Bhubaneswar expressed during our interaction [2013-05-13 21:03:18] <arjunaraoc> As you go to village level, the number of interested contributors as well as number of readers will be less and less. It will be tough to generate useful articles at village level, till the community becomes large [2013-05-13 21:04:07] <arjunaraoc> you may like to experiment block level first and then village or address one district from top to bottom as pilot. [2013-05-13 21:04:27] <subha1> Yes this is a concern, however the Odia community strongly sees about doing this project [2013-05-13 21:04:57] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: +1 [2013-05-13 21:05:04] <subha1> +1 arjunaraoc, that would another useful way of approach, will surely discuss that with the community [2013-05-13 21:05:16] <arjunaraoc> ok. [2013-05-13 21:06:04] <Vishnu_A2K> @Subha: Is it possible to have Arjuna part of the discussions with the Odia community on this particular project and leverage on Telugu Wiki Community's experience? [2013-05-13 21:06:25] <subha1> Definitely, that's a very good idea [2013-05-13 21:07:17] <subha1> Will explore an opportunity with the community for this useful interaction [2013-05-13 21:08:10] <Nitika> How about focussing on 3-4 districts to begin with. And cover as Arjuna says blocks, and villages? [2013-05-13 21:08:19] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: Shall we move to point 2. [2013-05-13 21:08:45] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: Ok we can discuss this one last suggestion from Nitika and move to point 2. [2013-05-13 21:09:07] <subha1> I second Nitika: , @Vishnu_A2K sure [2013-05-13 21:09:08] <arjunaraoc> subha1: Thanks for suggestion. It is not feasible for me to devote more time. I thought of sharing my experience so that a2k plans can be more effective. [2013-05-13 21:10:43] <subha1> arjunaraoc: We'll take these feedback and interact with the community and discuss [2013-05-13 21:11:00] <arjunaraoc> thanks subha1 [2013-05-13 21:11:01] <Nitika> @All: Should we move to point no. 2? [2013-05-13 21:11:16] <Abhinav> ok [2013-05-13 21:12:00] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: Point No. 2 is about 'Time frame for the proposed Pilot project' [2013-05-13 21:13:32] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: Arjuna has said " It is better to do couple of pilots for 3-6 months time frame to assess the potential." [2013-05-13 21:14:06] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: I see two aspects to the suggestion. [2013-05-13 21:14:26] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: 1) is about the proposed pilot on Performing Arts in India. [2013-05-13 21:14:44] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: 2) Doing more pilots than one. [2013-05-13 21:15:13] <Vishnu_A2K> Re. doing more pilots than one.... A2K is working on developing more pilots. [2013-05-13 21:15:33] <Vishnu_A2K> It is too early to commit to these on paper... [2013-05-13 21:15:55] <Theo10011> Good god, reading this is like watching paint dry. [2013-05-13 21:16:10] <Theo10011> I'm not sure why the constant use of @all is required [2013-05-13 21:16:19] <Vishnu_A2K> But sharing some ideas under development anyway... [2013-05-13 21:16:21] <Theo10011> the wide participation of 2 only has arjuna asking stuff [2013-05-13 21:16:39] <Theo10011> this can be easily taken to a private email or a one on one chat [2013-05-13 21:16:51] <Vishnu_A2K> A2K is developing a science project pilot with IISc [2013-05-13 21:16:56] <Nitika> Also since the person coming onboard to handle pilots will be new to the team it might be better for him/her to handle only one project to begin with. [2013-05-13 21:17:25] <Vishnu_A2K> Also there are discussions with TISS to do something focusing on Development Studies and Social Work. [2013-05-13 21:18:00] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: We will be more certain of these by mid June, by when we are expecting to sign some MoAs [2013-05-13 21:18:43] <arjunaraoc> Vishnu_A2K: I am referring to couple of pilots about the same topic for a shorter time. [2013-05-13 21:19:00] <Vishnu_A2K> @Theo: It is my style. Sorry if it is bothering you. [2013-05-13 21:19:12] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: Could you pls. elaborate? [2013-05-13 21:19:13] <arjunaraoc> If you plan to address other topics that is great. [2013-05-13 21:20:31] <arjunaraoc> Theo10011: The response to A2K plan discussion has not been good so far on meta. So they have announced IRC, where the status seems to be similar. anyway we will be done in another 15-20 minutes. thx for your patience [2013-05-13 21:21:14] <Theo10011> Great that you are there to rescue. [2013-05-13 21:21:18] <Theo10011> Speaking of which [2013-05-13 21:21:31] <Theo10011> CIS doesnt have anything to do with Wikimedia [2013-05-13 21:21:41] <Theo10011> as far as I know this is a different organization on a grant [2013-05-13 21:22:05] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: If you see the design of the Pilot it will be executed in multiple languages on the same topic. [2013-05-13 21:22:06] <Theo10011> Using all the same channels of communications as if this was like hisham [2013-05-13 21:22:17] <arjunaraoc> Vishnu_A2K: You have listed ten to twenty organisations for colloboration. I mean do pilots with couple of organisations for a short period [2013-05-13 21:22:25] <Theo10011> isn't the same [2013-05-13 21:22:28] <Theo10011> anyway [2013-05-13 21:22:31] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: Ok. [2013-05-13 21:23:10] <Theo10011> I should stop reading before I remove all of you and moderate the channel because its getting on my nerves. [2013-05-13 21:23:33] <subha1> I second arjunaraoc for the ideas about the pilots [2013-05-13 21:23:46] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: We were thinking of bringing all these together so that at a time a single article will be done in multiple languages. [2013-05-13 21:24:17] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: But we will definitely discuss this internally and try to think of the feasibility. [2013-05-13 21:24:21] <sipun> Vishnu: IISc and TISS will help for english language wiki or for any India language wikipedias ? [2013-05-13 21:24:43] <Vishnu_A2K> @Sipus: English + Indian Languages. [2013-05-13 21:24:54] <Vishnu_A2K> @Sipus: with IISc it will be English and Kannada [2013-05-13 21:25:05] <Vishnu_A2K> @Sipun: ooops! [2013-05-13 21:25:09] <sipun> How ? [2013-05-13 21:25:14] <Vishnu_A2K> got buttery fingers. [2013-05-13 21:25:42] <sipun> :D [2013-05-13 21:25:44] <arjunaraoc> Theo10011: What ever A2K does will impact Indian language wikipedias just like the previous wmf india programs initiative. May be they can discuss your feedback and plan the next session differently. [2013-05-13 21:26:34] <Vishnu_A2K> @Sipun: The faculty at IISc also write in Kannada and have linkages with UG level faculty which will be brought on board. [2013-05-13 21:26:58] <Vishnu_A2K> @Sipun: Similarly with TISS it will be English+Marathi+Telugu+Assamese (possibily) [2013-05-13 21:27:19] <arjunaraoc> Vishnu_A2K: what about the budget for these different initiatives. I did not find any info other than staff salaries. [2013-05-13 21:27:23] <sipun> Subha: can we discuss same with UU for same kind of plans like IISc. [2013-05-13 21:27:30] <Vishnu_A2K> @Sipun: As they have campuses in Maha, AP n Assam and their students and faculty are bi-lingual [2013-05-13 21:27:50] <sipun> yes [2013-05-13 21:28:17] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: We have shared a revised budget. [2013-05-13 21:28:59] <subha1> sipun: we're exploring the opportunities, but so far, we don't have a strong point of contact and facilities. We'd consider this and start to discuss more with UU [2013-05-13 21:29:00] <sipun> this is a good way for scientific articles in Indian lang wikis [2013-05-13 21:29:13] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: In that the Programme component will be used for this purpose. Also it will be massively less expensive as we are trying to get the institutions bear infra and other costs. [2013-05-13 21:29:17] <sipun> k [2013-05-13 21:30:12] <Vishnu_A2K> Shall we extend the chat by some more minutes to take Abhinav's point please and then we can leave? [2013-05-13 21:30:47] <arjunaraoc> Vishnu_A2K: how much is the program component? Can you point to any breakup of the same? [2013-05-13 21:31:07] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: it is clearly mentioned in the proposed revised budget. [2013-05-13 21:31:09] <arjunaraoc> if not right away, may be offline. [2013-05-13 21:31:35] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: Will share the revised budget document link through e-mail. [2013-05-13 21:31:44] <arjunaraoc> let me check again then. [2013-05-13 21:31:55] <Vishnu_A2K> Point 3: [2013-05-13 21:32:24] <Nitika> @Abhinav: Could you please elaborate on the Wiki Student Partners please? [2013-05-13 21:32:48] <Nitika> Is it something similar to Miscrosoft Student Partners that you're refering to? [2013-05-13 21:33:04] <Vishnu_A2K> @Abhinav: Do you mean students in colleges and univs? [2013-05-13 21:33:14] <Abhinav> Wiki Student Partners are students from different colleges who will help students in solving their queries and keeping follow ups of “How to edit on Wikipedia?” [2013-05-13 21:33:17] <Abhinav> yup [2013-05-13 21:34:40] <Vishnu_A2K> @Abhinav: If you see our plan, we have listed various Higher education institutional partnerships [2013-05-13 21:34:42] <Nitika> @Abhinav - I think it's a brillaint idea. Student Partners can share the Wikipedia editing skills with others, giving presentations and initiate projects. [2013-05-13 21:34:59] <Nitika> We can definitely take this up as a pilot. [2013-05-13 21:35:13] <Abhinav> @Nikita:- +1 [2013-05-13 21:35:16] <Nitika> But are you thinking to do this at the school/UG/PG level? [2013-05-13 21:35:25] <arjunaraoc> Vishnu_A2K: I found program cost breakup. Thx. [2013-05-13 21:35:46] <Abhinav> UG and PG [2013-05-13 21:35:47] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: Ok. Great! [2013-05-13 21:36:15] <Vishnu_A2K> @Arjuna: Please feel free to share the feedback later. [2013-05-13 21:36:44] <Vishnu_A2K> @Abhinav: But there will be an active local Wikimedia community that will be there to support. [2013-05-13 21:36:46] <Nitika> @Abhinav: I think so too. We can check the feasibility of running this with one our insti partners [2013-05-13 21:37:15] <Vishnu_A2K> @Abhinav: How do you think Student Partners are different from say any Wiki Community Member? [2013-05-13 21:37:41] <Abhinav> I'll share detailed document within 2-3 days... [2013-05-13 21:38:21] <Vishnu_A2K> Great! We will look forward. [2013-05-13 21:38:38] <Nitika> @Vishnu - I think Abhinav is refering to create a Wiki community within an educational institue similar to to a wiki community in a city. [2013-05-13 21:38:59] <Nitika> And ofcourse the two are not separate from one another. [2013-05-13 21:39:18] <Vishnu_A2K> @Nitika ok @Abhinav +1 [2013-05-13 21:39:51] <Nitika> @Abhinav - i look forward to reading your plan around this. :) [2013-05-13 21:40:06] <Nitika> maybe we could work together. [2013-05-13 21:40:16] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: Thank you for your time and engagement. [2013-05-13 21:40:38] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: We will definitely try and incorporate your feedback. [2013-05-13 21:40:40] <Abhinav> yeah...sure... :) [2013-05-13 21:40:46] <Nitika> :) [2013-05-13 21:41:04] <Abhinav> @All:- Thank you [2013-05-13 21:41:45] |<-- Abhinav has left freenode (Quit: Page closed) [2013-05-13 21:41:50] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: Please feel free to share any feedback and afterthoughts over e-mail and on Meta. [2013-05-13 21:41:51] <Nitika> Thanks everyone! Enjoy the rest of your evening/night. [2013-05-13 21:41:59] <subha1> Thanks everyone! Good night :) [2013-05-13 21:42:18] <arjunaraoc> Thanks all. Good night [2013-05-13 21:42:28] <Vishnu_A2K> @All: We will collect all the feedback by May 20 and revise the plans. [2013-05-13 21:42:32] <Vishnu_A2K> Good Night. [2013-05-13 21:42:38] <Vishnu_A2K> Thank you :) [2013-05-13 21:43:23] |<-- sipun has left freenode (Quit: Page closed) [2013-05-13 21:43:53] |<-- arjunaraoc has left freenode (Quit: Page closed) [2013-05-13 21:46:18] |<-- Nitika has left freenode (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [2013-05-13 21:47:30] <Vishnu_A2K> @Theo10011: Please do share your feedback on this session and suggest how we can organize this differently. Thanks.
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:27 PM, sankarshan foss.mailinglists@gmail.com wrote:
[snipping out the awkwardly long email I had sent earlier]
There is a section in the chat which is as below:
[2013-05-13 21:38:38] <Nitika> @Vishnu - I think Abhinav is refering to create a Wiki community within an educational institue similar to to a wiki community in a city.
Wasn't this approach tried earlier? To be able to build and sustain a community within an educational institute the minimum requirements would be the definition of why there will be contributions, who will coach the first set of members of the community and, how much oversight the process will have in terms of points that can be measured.
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan
On 15-May-2013, at 11:27 AM, sankarshan wrote:
[2013-05-13 21:38:38] <Nitika> @Vishnu - I think Abhinav is refering to create a Wiki community within an educational institue similar to to a wiki community in a city.
Wasn't this approach tried earlier? To be able to build and sustain a community within an educational institute the minimum requirements would be the definition of why there will be contributions, who will coach the first set of members of the community and, how much oversight the process will have in terms of points that can be measured.
Dear Sankarshan,
Yes, we have tried building communities in educational institutes before. But I guess what Abhinav is suggesting is a little different from our what has already been tried. Please give us sometime - I'll work with him to build on a design based on his ideas and more. We'll share with you a draft as soon as we have something substantial.
Thanks Nitika Tandon
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Nitika Tandon nitika@cis-india.org wrote:
Yes, we have tried building communities in educational institutes before. But I guess what Abhinav is suggesting is a little different from our what has already been tried. Please give us sometime - I'll work with him to build on a design based on his ideas and more. We'll share with you a draft as soon as we have something substantial.
Checking back on this, is there an update which can be shared?
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan
Dear Sankarshan,
Please see the attached document. This is what Abhinav had in mind. We'll try and work on this and formalize it when we have the Porgramme Officer, for Pilot Programmes onboard; who'll be responsible for executing pilots like these.
Thanks Nitika
On 07-Jun-2013, at 8:25 PM, sankarshan wrote:
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Nitika Tandon nitika@cis-india.org wrote:
Yes, we have tried building communities in educational institutes before. But I guess what Abhinav is suggesting is a little different from our what has already been tried. Please give us sometime - I'll work with him to build on a design based on his ideas and more. We'll share with you a draft as soon as we have something substantial.
Checking back on this, is there an update which can be shared?
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan
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On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Nitika Tandon nitika@cis-india.org wrote:
Please see the attached document. This is what Abhinav had in mind. We'll try and work on this and formalize it when we have the Porgramme Officer, for Pilot Programmes onboard; who'll be responsible for executing pilots like these.
Thank you, Nitika.
"It will consist of a group of 3-4 UG and/or PG student who will contribute to the Indian content on Wikipedia & Wikimedia sister project. The steps include outreach programs on “How to contribute to Wikipedia?” & will spread information about “Wikimedia and its projects”. This program is going to be based on Group activity. The plan is to create Wiki community within an Educational Institute."
I understand that in order to get buy-in from the institute around this initiative there is a need to specifically mention the academic levels which would be involved. But truly, what is required is a degree of competence and consistent contributions from the participants to be able to generate a positive outcome from this effort.
Is there a way that topics like "How to begin thinking about making your first page on Wikipedia?" or, "How Wikipedia communities work?" be captured as a talk so as to achieve some form of consistency. Language communities can help provide the closed captions if the talk is intended to be made available in as many Indian languages as possible. It would also mean that "Record one video in their native language on “How to edit on Wikipedia?” and share it on YouTube and social networking sites." has a standard base-line to work from.
The outcome (or, results?) section states
"Renewed Contribution to Wikipedia. Increase in Wikipedia & related workshops all over India Increase in Strength of overall Indian Community."
Perhaps these need to be articulated a bit more with specifics. Additionally, the current form of the plan does not mitigate the risks that were observed in the IEP/Pune_Effort. Most importantly, it currently does not indicate how the existing Wikipedian community will be participating in each of the initiatives/pilots and, be invested in ensuring success.
I am assuming that this is perhaps the first draft from Abhinav. I'll wait till there is a formal draft being put forth for feedback.
/sankarshan
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay https://twitter.com/#!/sankarshan
Hi
Why there was no consensus made to schedule a suitable time for the IRC? And it was informed just before one day! and there was no reminder.
And even if you think you have responded to the questions/feedback during IRC, please respond to the questions at meta also. I think this is a primary responsibility to respond, specifically when you ask for feedback.
From the chat log, it looks like many except few don't know how to mention
users while chatting. Just type the first letter of the nick and press tab button, the rest 'd be typed automatically.
E.g. if there is someone online with the nick "subas", just *type 's' *and*press 'tab' *. if there are two nicks start with s, then use more letter. Say another nick available srikant, then *type 'sr', *and* press 'tab'*. And there are even more usable tricks, and commands available at IRC to use it more efficiently.
Regards, Ansuman http://twitter.com/an5um *ଓଡ଼ିଆ ଉଇକିପିଡ଼ିଆ http://or.wikipedia.org/*
Dear Ansuman
On 17 May 2013 15:30, ansuman ansumang@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
Why there was no consensus made to schedule a suitable time for the IRC? And it was informed just before one day! and there was no reminder.
Henceforth, we will ensure that a sufficient notice period is given and
reminder is sent.
And even if you think you have responded to the questions/feedback during IRC, please respond to the questions at meta also. I think this is a primary responsibility to respond, specifically when you ask for feedback.
We have engaged with some of the feedback given on Meta and are internally
discussing some aspects that were raised and will be responding soon. Also we will be posting a summary of the feedback (in English on Meta) received from some of the language communities, specifically on the Language Plans.
From the chat log, it looks like many except few don't know how to mention users while chatting. Just type the first letter of the nick and press tab button, the rest 'd be typed automatically.
E.g. if there is someone online with the nick "subas", just *type 's' *and
- press 'tab'*. if there are two nicks start with s, then use more
letter. Say another nick available srikant, then *type 'sr', *and* press 'tab'*. And there are even more usable tricks, and commands available at IRC to use it more efficiently.
Thanks. This is useful.
Best regards, Vishnu
The best thing to do is to just paste the IRC logs as pages under meta.wikimedia.org.
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2013/5/14 Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com:
Sorry Nitika, the format provided gives no line breaks or paragraph breaks and its not readable. Please provide in a plain text file format, readable in DOS/Windows.
Ashwin
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Nitika Tandon nitika@cis-india.org wrote:
Hi All,
Please find attached log of the IRC chat.
Thank you to all those who took out time to give us some feedback. And for those who've written to us separately we'll aim to organise a one-on-one with you before the end of this week.
Thanks Nitika Tandon Program Manager Access to Knowledge The Centre for Internet & Society
On 13-May-2013, at 11:07 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:
Looking forward to see you tomorrow at IRC!
Hi Nitika, Wanted to be there at the meeting could not make it , is there a transcript available for people who are curious to know what happening in the meeting ?
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Sorry for the earlier mail. Please check this link for the log:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/IRC/13th_May
Best! Subha
On 14-May-2013, at 5:30 PM, "Amir E. Aharoni" amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il wrote:
The best thing to do is to just paste the IRC logs as pages under meta.wikimedia.org.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2013/5/14 Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com:
Sorry Nitika, the format provided gives no line breaks or paragraph breaks and its not readable. Please provide in a plain text file format, readable in DOS/Windows.
Ashwin
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Nitika Tandon nitika@cis-india.org wrote:
Hi All,
Please find attached log of the IRC chat.
Thank you to all those who took out time to give us some feedback. And for those who've written to us separately we'll aim to organise a one-on-one with you before the end of this week.
Thanks Nitika Tandon Program Manager Access to Knowledge The Centre for Internet & Society
On 13-May-2013, at 11:07 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:
Looking forward to see you tomorrow at IRC!
Hi Nitika, Wanted to be there at the meeting could not make it , is there a transcript available for people who are curious to know what happening in the meeting ?
-Satya fossevents.in
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Thanks for sharing.
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Subhashish Panigrahi < subhashish@cis-india.org> wrote:
Sorry for the earlier mail. Please check this link for the log:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Access_To_Knowledge/IRC/13th_May
Best! Subha
On 14-May-2013, at 5:30 PM, "Amir E. Aharoni" < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
The best thing to do is to just paste the IRC logs as pages under meta.wikimedia.org.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2013/5/14 Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com:
Sorry Nitika, the format provided gives no line breaks or paragraph breaks
and its not readable. Please provide in a plain text file format, readable
in DOS/Windows.
Ashwin
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Nitika Tandon nitika@cis-india.org
wrote:
Hi All,
Please find attached log of the IRC chat.
Thank you to all those who took out time to give us some feedback. And for
those who've written to us separately we'll aim to organise a one-on-one
with you before the end of this week.
Thanks
Nitika Tandon
Program Manager
Access to Knowledge
The Centre for Internet & Society
On 13-May-2013, at 11:07 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:
Looking forward to see you tomorrow at IRC!
Hi Nitika,
Wanted to be there at the meeting could not make it , isthere a transcript available for people who are curious to know what
happening in the meeting ?
-Satya
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Here are the screenshots.
Thnaks and regards, Abhinav Garule.
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:30 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
The best thing to do is to just paste the IRC logs as pages under meta.wikimedia.org.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2013/5/14 Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com:
Sorry Nitika, the format provided gives no line breaks or paragraph
breaks
and its not readable. Please provide in a plain text file format,
readable
in DOS/Windows.
Ashwin
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Nitika Tandon nitika@cis-india.org wrote:
Hi All,
Please find attached log of the IRC chat.
Thank you to all those who took out time to give us some feedback. And
for
those who've written to us separately we'll aim to organise a one-on-one with you before the end of this week.
Thanks Nitika Tandon Program Manager Access to Knowledge The Centre for Internet & Society
On 13-May-2013, at 11:07 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote:
Looking forward to see you tomorrow at IRC!
Hi Nitika, Wanted to be there at the meeting could not make it , is there a transcript available for people who are curious to know what happening in the meeting ?
-Satya fossevents.in
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