If ISO code also changes correspondingly from or to od, we should perhaps move wiki projects as well?
- Sundar "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
From: Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.com To: Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org; Oriya Wikipedia wikipedia-or@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Odia and Odisha
Indian Parliament approves new name for Oriya language and Orissa state.
Now onwards the Oriya language will be called as Odia and the Orissa state will hereafter be called Odisha.
More detailed news here: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/parliament-approves...
Shiju
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ISO code change is a matter of change, I feel our focus should be more into give Wikipedia more maturity and stability rather than spending time for mere name change, changes should be in work not just the name, it's a good news infact for being an Odia and calling myself from Odisha, but Oriya/Orissa are not some derogatory names, "Ori" has been taken from "Ora" which is derived from "Sumeria", one of the ancient tribes of the subcontinent which gives the originality and says about the nativity of the words Oriya/Orissa rather than saying they are the product of colonial rule. For a native Odia they both don't make much complication, but for people of other states it makes the difference as because of the spelling they have been mispronouncing the name of the state and language.
So, I feel the ISO Names are fine at this point of time, that could be a secondary need.
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Hoi, The or code is from the ISO-639-1, the code in the ISO-639-3 is ori. The codes are meant as a unique identifier and making them easy to remember is in some way helpful in others it is problematic. It is problematic because all the existing expressions in a language will still be known by the old code.
Consequently the codes stay the same and the new name is added with the old name as a valid synonym. To understand this, these names and codes are used internationally and the rest of the world does often find it hard to change.
Just an example fi or Finnish is actually called Suomi in Finland :) Thanks, GerardM
On 24 March 2011 16:34, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.com wrote:
If ISO code also changes correspondingly from or to od, we should perhaps move wiki projects as well?
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
*From:* Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.com *To:* Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia. < wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>; Oriya Wikipedia < wikipedia-or@lists.wikimedia.org> *Sent:* Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:59 PM *Subject:* Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Odia and Odisha
Indian Parliament approves new name for Oriya language and Orissa state.
Now onwards the Oriya language will be called as *Odia* and the Orissa state will hereafter be called *Odisha*.
More detailed news here: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/parliament-approves...
Shiju
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