Thank you Asaf for correcting my facts.
When I said WMIN was denied funding, It was obvious that I was referring to
the large chunk of budget that was denied and didn't mean that "no funding
was approved". I am glad to see your reply to Gerald's question that I
attempted to answer, which you found objectionable.
And thank you for acknowledging my weakness as volunteer, I do not get paid
to make edits on wiki and to reply to this email threat unlike other direct
or indirect beneficiaries of the WMF money, and hence appreciate your
patience in correcting my facts, which ultimately helps me to gain more
knowledge. Please bear with my second hand information until my time is
Thanks once again,
On 28 Apr 2014 20:18, "Asaf Bartov" <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:29 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas
I know a chapter in Europe, where probably you come from, which doesn't
depend on WMF's grant or funds as it has raised a huge amount on its own.
That chapter, WMUK, is still considered WMF chapter if I am not mistaking.
This is incorrect. The majority of funds raised by WMUK was raised via
the annual wiki-banner-based fundraiser, and is movement funding, granted
to WMUK via the FDC process.
Also, the need for WMIN to raise its own funds
has arisen because of
WMF's FDC's decision to not fund it and fund another private organisation.
This is also incorrect. The FDC _did_ recommend to fund WMIN this year,
albeit at a much reduced amount. While this is no doubt disappointing
to WMIN, it is funding nonetheless, and is at a scale similar to the
funding WMIN had received this past year via the Project and Event Grants
(PEG) program. And the FDC has _not_ funded another organization
(yet). It is currently evaluating a proposal by another organization --
CIS -- but whatever it decides regarding this proposal, it is entirely
independent of its decisions, present and future, about proposals from WMIN.
Crucially, the funding CIS is applying to receive (and has been receiving
in the past grant), is _by no means_ at the expense of WMIN, nor vice
versa. There is enough money to fund both organizations' work in India, to
the degree they propose compelling program plans.
This is not a zero-sum game, and money granted to organization A is not at
the expense of organization B. While the total "envelope" of funds the FDC
has to allocate is finite, it has never been the case so far that
organization A was short-changed despite a compelling plan because money
has run out due to funding organization B.
I hope this helps you to understand what's
Actually, these repeated half-truths are no doubt making it more difficult
for those reading these discussions to understand. I recognize that you
are all volunteers and don't have the time (or inclination) to closely
follow the Annual Plan Grants (FDC) process or to double-check your
statements about what past practice has been, and I gladly undertake to
provide accurate information where corrections are needed. But I would
encourage you all to either make more of an effort to get your facts right
in advance of making a statement (rather than relying on second-hand
accounts), _or_ to favor asking questions to making assertions, to avoid
misleading responses such as the one above. (I allege no bad faith here,
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