Hi all,
Attention : Indic communities using Narayam extension. Other Indic communities which don't have Narayam please do read below, I have a note for you too
As of now Malayalam,Tamil,Odiya,Sanskrit,Assamese,Sinhala communities use Narayam. Narayam is also deployed on Commons. Most of the communities had got the extension few months back, but there have been consistent improvements / bug fixes. Looks like people are not aware of those changes and started asking Shiju where can they know more.I am writing on 2 major things that was done to Narayam recently because of the bugs we(Tamil community) filed and fixes for them had caused an overall impact.
Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut key is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut works. Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon. //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)
Beta maps :- Refer bug[2] for details, in summary, if you have seen more input methods previously and started seeing lesser methods in last couple of days, its probably because of this. We did not want untested keyboard mappings live on WikiProjects. Beta maps will enable people to test newly added maps(bunch of inscript maps were added as part of Hackathon / Translation sprint) to be tested on translatewiki, only after a community member certifies it, it will be seen in wikimedia sites. This was done last week.
There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].
i18n team, Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will help and save much time for many folks.
To those communities who have not taken up Narayam and use old javascript solution :- The Javascript solution is not an ideal one now, though it served the purpose when it was built. Narayam is supported better / technically superior and as an extension is fairly stable. Unlike webfonts, Narayam will be deployed only if someone asks for and that should be the way..You can test through http://translatewiki.net report bugs(Ideally narayam shouldn't have bugs since Junaid took the maps which already existed in typing solution), get things fixed, call for community consensus and getting them deployed. I also request Shiju (who keeps interacting with various communities, to give a push on this to Indic wikipedians)
To those communities which don't have any input method solution :- Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team will help you get Narayam.
[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31026 [2] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32768 [3] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?component=Narayam&product=Med...
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut key is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut works. Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon. //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)
Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m.
There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing, so If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].
i18n team, Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if something relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will help and save much time for many folks.
We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two days before deployment. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n
Gerard blogs about the deployment , see http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and he plans to do this blog post for every deployment.
If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&path=... gives all the code changes happened in webfonts.
I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the changes for an extension/component
Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at this tag: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy
To those communities which don't have any input method solution :- Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team will help you get Narayam.
Happy to help.
-Santhosh
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 14:14, Santhosh Thottingal < santhosh.thottingal@gmail.com> wrote:
We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two days before deployment. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n
This should help, Thanks.
I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the changes for an extension/component
That is true. Community is definitely NOT interested to know the technical details of all the updates.
But these type of changes (like the change in shortcut key) which affect the typing habit of users needs to be communicated to commuity (here Indic wikimedians), at least in this list.
How you know
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Santhosh Thottingal < santhosh.thottingal@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
Shortcut key on Mac :- Refer bug[1] for details, in summary the shortcut
key
is now dynamic based on browser / OS combination so that the shortcut
works.
Control+G is new shortcut on Mac largely. This was done during Hackathon. //Surprise surprise, more Indic users on mac :)
Small correction, this fix was not done during hackathon, but before that. And for Opera in OSX, shortcut is control+command+m.
There are more bugs reported by others and the software keeps changing,
so
If you want to follow Narayam in close detail, subscribe to the feed[3].
i18n team, Some of us know, you push i18n patches every Monday. Can you also give a feed for recent changes in patch *every week*, so we could see if
something
relevant to us changed in the patch and test so that we may not miss any regression caused and be quick to report issues. I know wikitech wiki has the logs somewhere on deployment(forgot now), but a plain text feed will help and save much time for many folks.
We post the i18n deployment notes in Mediaiwiki-i18n list , one or two days before deployment. https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-i18n
Gerard blogs about the deployment , see http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/12/12/going-live-december-12-2011/ and he plans to do this blog post for every deployment.
If anybody is interested particularly in some extension, they can follow all the commits to that path in subversion For eg:
https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Code/MediaWiki&path=... gives all the code changes happened in webfonts.
I am not sure whether it is really required to post these changes every week here, because not every one is interested in reading the code changes. I hope the code review page helps to find out all the changes for an extension/component
Another way to find out planned revisions for i18ndeploy is looking at this tag: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/i18ndeploy
To those communities which don't have any input method solution :- Please invest some time, the returns are really great. Juniad / i18n team will help you get Narayam.
Happy to help.
-Santhosh
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On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.com wrote:
But these type of changes (like the change in shortcut key) which affect the typing habit of users needs to be communicated to commuity (here Indic wikimedians), at least in this list.
No change in typing habit, it was just broken and not working in those browsers in OSX. We just made it working. We did not change any existing working key to an alternate key.
On the other hand Keyboard layout change requests often comes through bugzilla from community and get reviewed by community. So its upto the community to update the documentation in local language.
Anyway any changes that are not "fixes" will be communicated.
Having said that there is a small user interface update coming tentatively next week's deployment - the menu will not be visible by moving the mouse over the links of webfonts and Narayam. Menu will be visible when user click on the links. You can see this change in translatewiki.net.
There is also another update for Narayam, to make the menu position correct in LTR and RTL and to prevent it crossing screen width. It is a bug fix.
These changes are applicable for both Narayam and Webfonts.
Thanks Santhosh
Thanks Santhosh
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