I am happy to share a tiny web application to help people get started with using Indian languages on Computers in public places, using wiki sites.
Check it out http://gyanpad.appspot.com/
Cheers Arjun
Arjuna,
Just test drove the site. I think this is a great beginning in letting people access sites and query wikimedia content in Indian languages without having to worry about having to configure a language specific keyboard on a given PC.
It would be great if you could also link to all the Wikimedia sites in that language after the screen key board is chosen.
regards Arun
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Arjuna,
This is good. Thanks for this. .
Hope the devide will be devoid of all rendering issues especially for the languages like Oriya.
I have few suggestions
1. Support for languages like Assamese/Punjabi is very much required. 2. The inscript keyboard option should be there for all the languages. 3. Let the user select the language name first, the keyboad option can be given (phonetic/inscript) in the next screen. 4. A better user interface can be provided for the homepage.
Hope soon someone will develop a device for this. Supporting all the Indian language scripts without any rendering issues will be a challenge. May be we may need to try the web font embedding technology.
Shiju
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM, arunram25@gmail.com wrote:
Arjuna,
Just test drove the site. I think this is a great beginning in letting people access sites and query wikimedia content in Indian languages without having to worry about having to configure a language specific keyboard on a given PC.
It would be great if you could also link to all the Wikimedia sites in that language after the screen key board is chosen.
regards Arun
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Shiju,
Thanks for the excellent feedback. I just came up with this as I have not actively worked "hands on" for a long long time.
Looking for people to collaborate and take this further.
Cheers Arjun
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Arjuna,
This is good. Thanks for this. .
Hope the devide will be devoid of all rendering issues especially for the languages like Oriya.
I have few suggestions
- Support for languages like Assamese/Punjabi is very much required.
- The inscript keyboard option should be there for all the languages.
- Let the user select the language name first, the keyboad option can
be given (phonetic/inscript) in the next screen. 4. A better user interface can be provided for the homepage.
Hope soon someone will develop a device for this. Supporting all the Indian language scripts without any rendering issues will be a challenge. May be we may need to try the web font embedding technology.
Shiju
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM, arunram25@gmail.com wrote:
Arjuna,
Just test drove the site. I think this is a great beginning in letting people access sites and query wikimedia content in Indian languages without having to worry about having to configure a language specific keyboard on a given PC.
It would be great if you could also link to all the Wikimedia sites in that language after the screen key board is chosen.
regards Arun
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Hi Arjuna,
Thank you, Arjuna. This is the good stuff.
I would recommend increasing the size of the text-box for input after the selection of the language and script. Also, most users at public kiosks are more likely to use phonetic input rather than inscript.
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:43 AM, arjuna rao chavala < arjunaraoc@googlemail.com> wrote:
Shiju,
Thanks for the excellent feedback. I just came up with this as I have not actively worked "hands on" for a long long time.
Looking for people to collaborate and take this further.
Cheers Arjun
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
Arjuna,
This is good. Thanks for this. .
Hope the devide will be devoid of all rendering issues especially for the languages like Oriya.
I have few suggestions
- Support for languages like Assamese/Punjabi is very much required.
- The inscript keyboard option should be there for all the languages.
- Let the user select the language name first, the keyboad option can
be given (phonetic/inscript) in the next screen. 4. A better user interface can be provided for the homepage.
Hope soon someone will develop a device for this. Supporting all the Indian language scripts without any rendering issues will be a challenge. May be we may need to try the web font embedding technology.
Shiju
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM, arunram25@gmail.com wrote:
Arjuna,
Just test drove the site. I think this is a great beginning in letting people access sites and query wikimedia content in Indian languages without having to worry about having to configure a language specific keyboard on a given PC.
It would be great if you could also link to all the Wikimedia sites in that language after the screen key board is chosen.
regards Arun
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Arjuna,
Thank you, Arjuna. This is the good stuff.
I would recommend increasing the size of the text-box for input after the selection of the language and script. Also, most users at public kiosks are more likely to use phonetic input rather than inscript.
Thanks for your feedback.
Suppose we go to village fair, we will have people who will be comfortable with inscript. It will be even better to have alphabetic ordered on screen keyboard.
Cheers Arjun
Suppose we go to village fair, we will have people who will be comfortable with inscript.
This is very much true. There are many computer users who are conformable only with inscript typing while typing in their mother tongue. And most of them doesn't like to use transliteration.
And most of them call inscript as *ISMhttp://pune.cdac.in/html/gist/faq/ism_f.asp *.
Shiju
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM, arjuna rao chavala < arjunaraoc@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Arjuna,
Thank you, Arjuna. This is the good stuff.
I would recommend increasing the size of the text-box for input after the selection of the language and script. Also, most users at public kiosks are more likely to use phonetic input rather than inscript.
Thanks for your feedback.
Suppose we go to village fair, we will have people who will be comfortable with inscript. It will be even better to have alphabetic ordered on screen keyboard.
Cheers Arjun
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Arun,
Thanks for your feedback. I would like to expand the scope of search to Government and other Non profit institutions as mentioned in the blog link from the site. Also, I want people to experience the clicking of characters on the next page.
Cheers Arjun
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM, arunram25@gmail.com wrote:
Arjuna,
Just test drove the site. I think this is a great beginning in letting people access sites and query wikimedia content in Indian languages without having to worry about having to configure a language specific keyboard on a given PC.
It would be great if you could also link to all the Wikimedia sites in that language after the screen key board is chosen.
regards Arun
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:35, arjuna rao chavala <arjunaraoc@googlemail.com
wrote:
I am happy to share a tiny web application to help people get started with using Indian languages on Computers in public places, using wiki sites.
Check it out http://gyanpad.appspot.com/
Cheers Arjun
Hi Arjuna,
Great stuff. One more suggestion i could think of is to support "google transliteration" in addition to phonetic input. Just to qoute an example in the difference, phonetic gives டமில் for tamil where the same in google transliterate gives the correct word தமிழ். Google i think has a memory on its transliteration labs as well. Pardon my ignorance of not knowing any other indic language other than tamil.
Is the code open somewhere?
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Arjuna,
Great stuff. One more suggestion i could think of is to support "google transliteration" in addition to phonetic input. Just to qoute an example in the difference, phonetic gives டமில் for tamil where the same in google transliterate gives the correct word தமிழ். Google i think has a memory on its transliteration labs as well. Pardon my ignorance of not knowing any other indic language other than tamil.
Is the code open somewhere?
Thanks. With transliteration you just need to live with English
keypad , you will see the text in native language only after you type space following all the english spelling of the native language word.
I ran into problem s adding other google search features like suggested search words based on the history, when I tried to integrate virtual keyboard and search for this application. Code is tiny and not of very good quality. It is just the html pages that you can look at using view source in your browser once the page loads. Feel free to check out. Cheers Arjun
(copying my response from another list)
Good work, Arjuna. (Though not a fan of phonetic keyboards that rely on English alphabet sounds due to long term negative impact,) I tried Tamil and Malayalam and they both work very well. One suggestion would be to handle backspace to erase the original input. For example, if I've typed aa in Malayalam, and press backspace, it should retain 'a', no?
- Sundar "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
________________________________ From: arjuna rao chavala arjunaraoc@googlemail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 7:35:56 AM Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Gyanpad (Knowledge kiosk) web app: Easy interface to search Wikipedia and sister sites in Indian languages
I am happy to share a tiny web application to help people get started with using Indian languages on Computers in public places, using wiki sites.
Check it out http://gyanpad.appspot.com/
Cheers Arjun
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.comwrote:
(copying my response from another list)
Good work, Arjuna. (Though not a fan of phonetic keyboards that rely on English alphabet sounds due to long term negative impact,)
I agree. May be some people are comfortable with that. We have to wait for Google to provide inscript keyboards for other languages or make inscript/alphabetic keyboards ourselves.
I tried Tamil and Malayalam and they both work very well. One suggestion would be to handle backspace to erase the original input. For example, if I've typed aa in Malayalam, and press backspace, it should retain 'a', no?
The backspace works on the converted unicode characters. If you type ra, backspace will delete the whole unicode letter. If you type raa to reflect long vowel, one backspace will make it equivalent to ra.
If you are starting the word with aa, it becomes a single unicode character corresponding to long vowel (A).
Regards Arjun
We have to wait for Google to provide inscript keyboards for other languages or make inscript/alphabetic keyboards ourselves.
:) Why wait for Google?
We have lot of programmers among us. Let us form a team and start working on it.
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:51 PM, arjuna rao chavala < arjunaraoc@googlemail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.comwrote:
(copying my response from another list)
Good work, Arjuna. (Though not a fan of phonetic keyboards that rely on English alphabet sounds due to long term negative impact,)
I agree. May be some people are comfortable with that. We have to wait for Google to provide inscript keyboards for other languages or make inscript/alphabetic keyboards ourselves.
I tried Tamil and Malayalam and they both work very well. One suggestion would be to handle backspace to erase the original input. For example, if I've typed aa in Malayalam, and press backspace, it should retain 'a', no?
The backspace works on the converted unicode characters. If you type ra, backspace will delete the whole unicode letter. If you type raa to reflect long vowel, one backspace will make it equivalent to ra.
If you are starting the word with aa, it becomes a single unicode character corresponding to long vowel (A).
Regards Arjun
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Shiju Alex shijualexonline@gmail.comwrote:
We have to wait for Google to provide inscript keyboards for other
languages or make inscript/alphabetic keyboards ourselves.
:) Why wait for Google?
We have lot of programmers among us. Let us form a team and start working on it.
Since Google has already done one, it will be much easier for them to repeat it for other languages, as it is just one mapping file. It will offer consistent quality. Else we have to struggle with consistency in look/programing etc.
I see.
- Sundar "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
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On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 3:07 PM, BalaSundaraRaman sundarbecse@yahoo.com wrote:
(copying my response from another list)
Good work, Arjuna. (Though not a fan of phonetic keyboards that rely on English alphabet sounds due to long term negative impact,)
I agree. May be some people are comfortable with that. We have to wait for Google to provide inscript keyboards for other languages or make inscript/alphabetic keyboards ourselves.
I tried Tamil and Malayalam and they both work very well. One suggestion would be to handle backspace to erase the original input. For example, if I've typed aa in Malayalam, and press backspace, it should retain 'a', no?
The backspace works on the converted unicode characters. If you type ra, backspace will delete the whole unicode letter. If you type raa to reflect long vowel, one backspace will make it equivalent to ra.
If you are starting the word with aa, it becomes a single unicode character corresponding to long vowel (A).
Regards Arjun
I added a comment on google issue. http://code.google.com/p/google-ajax-apis/issues/detail?id=454&q=virtual... Request your help to support the same, so that it gets Google attention.
Regards Arjun
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:35 AM, arjuna rao chavala < arjunaraoc@googlemail.com> wrote:
I am happy to share a tiny web application to help people get started with using Indian languages on Computers in public places, using wiki sites.
Check it out http://gyanpad.appspot.com/
Cheers Arjun
Just to let you know that Google has quietly added several layouts before deprecating the whole Virtual keyboard API.( These will continue to work). I have updated my app and feel it can be used in wiki academies or where you want to focus on searching wikis, Do try and share your feedback. http://gyanpad.appspot.com
Cheers Arjun
On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 9:58 AM, arjuna rao chavala < arjunaraoc@googlemail.com> wrote:
I added a comment on google issue.
http://code.google.com/p/google-ajax-apis/issues/detail?id=454&q=virtual... Request your help to support the same, so that it gets Google attention.
Regards Arjun
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:35 AM, arjuna rao chavala < arjunaraoc@googlemail.com> wrote:
I am happy to share a tiny web application to help people get started with using Indian languages on Computers in public places, using wiki sites.
Check it out http://gyanpad.appspot.com/
Cheers Arjun
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