Hey,
I have been noting declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias for the last few months.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/telugu-wikiped...
triggered to write this mail.
This is my view on what's happening:
1. Most of the Indian Wikipedias have crossed 10 years. Many of the active and first generation contributors are burnt out, taking a leave or have left for good. If you are not creative, intentional and consistent in your efforts to replenish and nurture the next generation, you will see a declining trend.
2. Malayalam Wikipedia which once had 30 contributors who made 100+ edits a month registered only 10 such editors in May 2014. The last time they had activity this low was during May 2011. At the same time, their Wiki Source is registering a phenomenal growth. So, some resources could be split between projects too. This is a good reason to not start too many projects. Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikisource should be good enough unless you have a huge community.
3. Focus on offline projects like events, celebrations. While they are good, over doing can stress few active contributors. In my experience, every time after organizing some offline event, there is too much burn out and people return after months.
4. Things that plague all global Wikipedias - archaic editor, social media distractions, increasing use of tablets / smart phones.
Future will be quite challenging :)
Ravi
A large amount goes to experiments...if one third of that amount used appreciating editors, we would have been a much better scenario.
On 29-Jul-2014 7:09 pm, "Ravishankar" ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Hey,
I have been noting declining contributions across Indian Wikipedias for
the last few months.
http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-national/tp-karnataka/telugu-wikiped...
triggered to write this mail.
This is my view on what's happening:
- Most of the Indian Wikipedias have crossed 10 years. Many of the
active and first generation contributors are burnt out, taking a leave or have left for good. If you are not creative, intentional and consistent in your efforts to replenish and nurture the next generation, you will see a declining trend.
- Malayalam Wikipedia which once had 30 contributors who made 100+ edits
a month registered only 10 such editors in May 2014. The last time they had activity this low was during May 2011. At the same time, their Wiki Source is registering a phenomenal growth. So, some resources could be split between projects too. This is a good reason to not start too many projects. Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikisource should be good enough unless you have a huge community.
- Focus on offline projects like events, celebrations. While they are
good, over doing can stress few active contributors. In my experience, every time after organizing some offline event, there is too much burn out and people return after months.
- Things that plague all global Wikipedias - archaic editor, social
media distractions, increasing use of tablets / smart phones.
Future will be quite challenging :)
I'm sure more experiments coming our way to make the future less challenging.. ;)
Ravi
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Ansuman,
Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :)
Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really manage things themselves.
If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the projects.
Ravi
Yes, rightly said..here money is not solving one but creating many... And only the community can save itself...not paid organizations... :) On 29-Jul-2014 10:00 pm, "Ravishankar" ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Ansuman,
Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :)
Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really manage things themselves.
If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the projects.
Ravi
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In my suggestion/ recommendation we need to create vertical projects within wiki-projects. It could be Indian space Environment, local destinations in your city, etc. With this we should tap into colleges, schools and the senior editors can look into inspiring the new and junior editors.
I am saying this in my personal capacity as a contributor to Wikipedia.
-- Moksh Juneja Wikimedia India
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Yes, rightly said..here money is not solving one but creating many... And only the community can save itself...not paid organizations... :) On 29-Jul-2014 10:00 pm, "Ravishankar" ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Ansuman,
Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :)
Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really manage things themselves.
If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the projects.
Ravi
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Hello Everyone :)
"we should tap into colleges, schools and the senior editors can look into inspiring the new and junior editors."
I think this is how wikipedia can engage new editors, young editors.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Moksh Juneja moksh@wikimedia.in wrote:
In my suggestion/ recommendation we need to create vertical projects within wiki-projects. It could be Indian space Environment, local destinations in your city, etc. With this we should tap into colleges, schools and the senior editors can look into inspiring the new and junior editors.
I am saying this in my personal capacity as a contributor to Wikipedia.
-- Moksh Juneja Wikimedia India
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:52 PM, ansuman ansumang@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, rightly said..here money is not solving one but creating many... And only the community can save itself...not paid organizations... :) On 29-Jul-2014 10:00 pm, "Ravishankar" ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Ansuman,
Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :)
Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really manage things themselves.
If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the projects.
Ravi
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You sent this on July 30th!? I received this on September 15th! But anyway, thank you! Your suggestion is worth considering. :)
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Anwar Hussain anwar2raj@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Everyone :)
"we should tap into colleges, schools and the senior editors can look into inspiring the new and junior editors."
I think this is how wikipedia can engage new editors, young editors.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Moksh Juneja moksh@wikimedia.in wrote:
In my suggestion/ recommendation we need to create vertical projects within wiki-projects. It could be Indian space Environment, local destinations in your city, etc. With this we should tap into colleges, schools and the senior editors can look into inspiring the new and junior editors.
I am saying this in my personal capacity as a contributor to Wikipedia.
-- Moksh Juneja Wikimedia India
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:52 PM, ansuman ansumang@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, rightly said..here money is not solving one but creating many... And only the community can save itself...not paid organizations... :) On 29-Jul-2014 10:00 pm, "Ravishankar" ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Ansuman,
Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :)
Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really manage things themselves.
If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the projects.
Ravi
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I support Mr.Ravi's third point We recognize few individuals who contributed and awarded surprisingly we don't find any impact after that, some how new and anonymous users contribution is very low in Te.Wiki .During most of its content existence the Te.Wiki has been maintained by community without organized effort.I found while others come to share knowledge writing in Telugu as per Wiki style is barrier . Most of the people not able to express their knowledge in Telugu.My experience with Telugu Wikipedia from 2006 Regards Kasyap -
2014-07-30 9:00 GMT+05:30 Moksh Juneja moksh@wikimedia.in:
In my suggestion/ recommendation we need to create vertical projects within wiki-projects. It could be Indian space Environment, local destinations in your city, etc. With this we should tap into colleges, schools and the senior editors can look into inspiring the new and junior editors.
I am saying this in my personal capacity as a contributor to Wikipedia.
-- Moksh Juneja Wikimedia India
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:52 PM, ansuman ansumang@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, rightly said..here money is not solving one but creating many... And only the community can save itself...not paid organizations... :) On 29-Jul-2014 10:00 pm, "Ravishankar" ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
Ansuman,
Money can't solve all problems and it can bring new problems too :)
Irrespective of availablilty or lack of funds, communities can really manage things themselves.
If the communities don't plan and take initiatives, nothing can save the projects.
Ravi
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