FYI.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:27 AM Subject: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments - will your country participate? To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)" internal-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi all, we're well on our way getting started with Wiki Loves Monuments 2012! (feel free to forward)
For those that don't know what Wiki Loves Monuments is all about, please read this blog post [http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/02/165000-photos-submitted-during-second-a...] on the WMF blog and this page about how the concept works [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Document...]; here's also a small introduction to the main idea of the contest and what's awaiting us this year.
== Wiki Loves Monuments in a nutshell == The photo competition around physical cultural heritage (buildings, bridges, etc.) is running in September, organized in numerous countries around the world. The contest is being organized in each country separately, allowing to play to the local needs and wishes, but is joined by an umbrella contest for the whole world making it all a bit more exciting. Last year the contest was organized in 18 countries, and brought in 165.000 images by 5000 uploaders. More importantly, 4000 of these uploaders never uploaded anything before!
== Is your country participating? Helping hands are needed! == For 2012 already 24 countries [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Particip...] indicated that they will definitely participate, and 16 more say they possibly will participate. Please take a look at the list, and see whether your country is already there. If you would like to help organize this contest in your country, please join the team that signed up for it (often through a chapter or a local group) or start your own organizing group if there is none yet! Interested countries for example include India, United States, Chile, Sweden and Italy.
== So, why would you want to organize a WLM in your country? == Well, of course there are the images – it is great to have good images available of your country. But more importantly perhaps is the amount of individuals that might participate! Hundreds, maybe thousands of people who never contributed before can now help out with what they are best at: making photos. They often find it fun, and might hang around a bit longer if we receive them well. It also is a good opportunity to get in touch with local cultural heritage institutions.
Finally, it is a good way to try and forge a local community to organize events together. It is an existing framework you can use, and although there are no guarantees, working in an international context like this (the largest collaboration between chapters and other Wikimedia organizations so far!) helps a lot to keep people motivated and close to each other. An international group will be helping interested groups with the basic infrastructure and other things, and on a national level, you can focus on the organizing of your own contest, lists and communications.
== Join the team and get started! == If you want to know more, feel free to leave a message[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012] or send us an email. But make sure to get started now if you're interested - because some parts of the work just require quite some time since external parties are involved. We would be delighted to help you out in any way possible to pull off this event.
Best, Lodewijk (on behalf of the international coordinating team)
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Dear Anirudh, We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl. Just passing it for your information so that we can have more focused discussions there. Thanks! Noopur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.comwrote:
FYI.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:27 AM Subject: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments - will your country participate? To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)" internal-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi all, we're well on our way getting started with Wiki Loves Monuments 2012! (feel free to forward)
For those that don't know what Wiki Loves Monuments is all about, please read this blog post [ http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/02/165000-photos-submitted-during-second-a... ] on the WMF blog and this page about how the concept works [ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Document... ]; here's also a small introduction to the main idea of the contest and what's awaiting us this year.
== Wiki Loves Monuments in a nutshell == The photo competition around physical cultural heritage (buildings, bridges, etc.) is running in September, organized in numerous countries around the world. The contest is being organized in each country separately, allowing to play to the local needs and wishes, but is joined by an umbrella contest for the whole world making it all a bit more exciting. Last year the contest was organized in 18 countries, and brought in 165.000 images by 5000 uploaders. More importantly, 4000 of these uploaders never uploaded anything before!
== Is your country participating? Helping hands are needed! == For 2012 already 24 countries [ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Particip... ] indicated that they will definitely participate, and 16 more say they possibly will participate. Please take a look at the list, and see whether your country is already there. If you would like to help organize this contest in your country, please join the team that signed up for it (often through a chapter or a local group) or start your own organizing group if there is none yet! Interested countries for example include India, United States, Chile, Sweden and Italy.
== So, why would you want to organize a WLM in your country? == Well, of course there are the images – it is great to have good images available of your country. But more importantly perhaps is the amount of individuals that might participate! Hundreds, maybe thousands of people who never contributed before can now help out with what they are best at: making photos. They often find it fun, and might hang around a bit longer if we receive them well. It also is a good opportunity to get in touch with local cultural heritage institutions.
Finally, it is a good way to try and forge a local community to organize events together. It is an existing framework you can use, and although there are no guarantees, working in an international context like this (the largest collaboration between chapters and other Wikimedia organizations so far!) helps a lot to keep people motivated and close to each other. An international group will be helping interested groups with the basic infrastructure and other things, and on a national level, you can focus on the organizing of your own contest, lists and communications.
== Join the team and get started! == If you want to know more, feel free to leave a message[ http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012] or send us an email. But make sure to get started now if you're interested - because some parts of the work just require quite some time since external parties are involved. We would be delighted to help you out in any way possible to pull off this event.
Best, Lodewijk (on behalf of the international coordinating team)
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Noopur,
This is a major development and should be of interest to those who are outside of the wlm-in mailing list. Thanks.
anirudh
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Anirudh, We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl. Just passing it for your information so that we can have more focused discussions there. Thanks! Noopur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Anirudh Bhati anirudhsbh@gmail.com wrote:
FYI.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 4:27 AM Subject: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments - will your country participate? To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)" internal-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Hi all, we're well on our way getting started with Wiki Loves Monuments 2012! (feel free to forward)
For those that don't know what Wiki Loves Monuments is all about, please read this blog post
[http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/10/02/165000-photos-submitted-during-second-a...] on the WMF blog and this page about how the concept works
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Document...]; here's also a small introduction to the main idea of the contest and what's awaiting us this year.
== Wiki Loves Monuments in a nutshell == The photo competition around physical cultural heritage (buildings, bridges, etc.) is running in September, organized in numerous countries around the world. The contest is being organized in each country separately, allowing to play to the local needs and wishes, but is joined by an umbrella contest for the whole world making it all a bit more exciting. Last year the contest was organized in 18 countries, and brought in 165.000 images by 5000 uploaders. More importantly, 4000 of these uploaders never uploaded anything before!
== Is your country participating? Helping hands are needed! == For 2012 already 24 countries
[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Particip...] indicated that they will definitely participate, and 16 more say they possibly will participate. Please take a look at the list, and see whether your country is already there. If you would like to help organize this contest in your country, please join the team that signed up for it (often through a chapter or a local group) or start your own organizing group if there is none yet! Interested countries for example include India, United States, Chile, Sweden and Italy.
== So, why would you want to organize a WLM in your country? == Well, of course there are the images – it is great to have good images available of your country. But more importantly perhaps is the amount of individuals that might participate! Hundreds, maybe thousands of people who never contributed before can now help out with what they are best at: making photos. They often find it fun, and might hang around a bit longer if we receive them well. It also is a good opportunity to get in touch with local cultural heritage institutions.
Finally, it is a good way to try and forge a local community to organize events together. It is an existing framework you can use, and although there are no guarantees, working in an international context like this (the largest collaboration between chapters and other Wikimedia organizations so far!) helps a lot to keep people motivated and close to each other. An international group will be helping interested groups with the basic infrastructure and other things, and on a national level, you can focus on the organizing of your own contest, lists and communications.
== Join the team and get started! == If you want to know more, feel free to leave a
message[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012] or send us an email. But make sure to get started now if you're interested - because some parts of the work just require quite some time since external parties are involved. We would be delighted to help you out in any way possible to pull off this event.
Best, Lodewijk (on behalf of the international coordinating team)
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On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl.
Is there a reason the archives should to be private?
hi,
Re: WLM-In The status of the archives has not been discussed yet. In fact, we're yet to move on this at all. So, not much has happened in terms of discussion on this list. As of now, I see no point in keeping the archives private. In the future, it might be depending on how comfortable people are with discussions there.
The GLAM taskforce within the Chapter has been sought advice on this. I, personally, would like this to be discussed on the members list (the part relating to the chapter's involvement) since the taskforce is still finding its feet. The rest of the community is also invivted.
warm regards, Pradeep
On 16 March 2012 11:57, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl.
Is there a reason the archives should to be private?
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Not really but when Lodewijk offered to create this list, we had a couple of concerns like communicating with organizations and exploring possibilities of partnership (because WLM participants have done that in the past). So, I wasn't sure if these conversations should be public. However, now that we have substantial number of people on the list, we could just take a vote and figure out the best combination. Regards Noopur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl.
Is there a reason the archives should to be private?
-- Regards Srikanth.L
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hi,
Going off on a tangent - the main concern now vis-a-vis the Indian Wiki Loves Monuments is that we don't have a good list of Monuments in India as of now. Any help pointing to a list of monuments would be great.
warm regards, User:Prad2609
Heya all,
glad to see this discussion happening! It means people care, and caring people is good! The list is there of course for your needs. We just set it up as a copy of the Dutch list, but you can make any adjustments to it that mailman will allow. Also, right now I'm admin, and I would also be happy to expand that to someone else - but maybe that is for later.
The list is mainly intended to make your life easier. In NL we indeed chose to keep private archives but open subscription - that way keeping it out of google, but anyone who wanted to join discussion could just do so and see the archive. That was like Noopur explained indeed mainly to avoid that discussions about partners end up on a private mail with many people in cc. So yeah, there are reasons - but it is up to you as a team to decide whether you want to maintain the status quo :)
Best,
Lodewijk
No dia 16 de Março de 2012 07:48, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com escreveu:
Not really but when Lodewijk offered to create this list, we had a couple of concerns like communicating with organizations and exploring possibilities of partnership (because WLM participants have done that in the past). So, I wasn't sure if these conversations should be public. However, now that we have substantial number of people on the list, we could just take a vote and figure out the best combination. Regards Noopur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl.
Is there a reason the archives should to be private?
-- Regards Srikanth.L
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Dear Pradeep, I think you suggested INTACH, so I followed it up. Have sent them a mail and was searching thru their listings. A few cities do have comprehensive listing so we can expand our own list. Could I suggest that we start a list on our Wiki somewhere? That way we can draw upon sources and make our own big list.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Heya all,
glad to see this discussion happening! It means people care, and caring people is good! The list is there of course for your needs. We just set it up as a copy of the Dutch list, but you can make any adjustments to it that mailman will allow. Also, right now I'm admin, and I would also be happy to expand that to someone else - but maybe that is for later.
The list is mainly intended to make your life easier. In NL we indeed chose to keep private archives but open subscription - that way keeping it out of google, but anyone who wanted to join discussion could just do so and see the archive. That was like Noopur explained indeed mainly to avoid that discussions about partners end up on a private mail with many people in cc. So yeah, there are reasons - but it is up to you as a team to decide whether you want to maintain the status quo :)
Best,
Lodewijk
No dia 16 de Março de 2012 07:48, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.comescreveu:
Not really but when Lodewijk offered to create this list, we had a couple
of concerns like communicating with organizations and exploring possibilities of partnership (because WLM participants have done that in the past). So, I wasn't sure if these conversations should be public. However, now that we have substantial number of people on the list, we could just take a vote and figure out the best combination. Regards Noopur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl.
Is there a reason the archives should to be private?
-- Regards Srikanth.L
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hi,
Going through the Timeline for Wiki Loves Monuments 2012[1], I sent a mail to Lodewijk for what they meant by "start a heritage project on your local wikipedia and analyse if the community wants to join your project". To which he sent these two WikiProjects as examples[2][3]. I went to search for similar WikiProjects in India and since User:AshLin was around on chat, I asked him for help. He provided me this list of helpful projects under WikiProject India[4].
Since this was a picture related project, User:AshLin did not want to burden them on any of the "pure article based departments".
This is the condition so far. The only group that has the closest connection to the Wiki Loves Monuments is the Indian history workgroup[5]. As a hack for User:AshLin's concern, I suggested that the Photography department[6] of WP:India be given the role and that it work with the Indian history workgroup in this particular case. This work was supposed to be done in February, but hopefully we can do it now.
Going back to Noopur's email, once the Indian history workgroup is okay, we can seek their help in putting together the list of Monuments. I also wonder if INTACH can be involved as an institutional partner, but that comes much later, I guess. Wikipedia first.
I would love to hear any alternatives to this idea of taking Wiki Loves Monuments or would love to see a discussion on the talk pages of this group to their perception on Wiki Loves Monuments and if they'll be interested in being involved. Any help is welcome!
warm regards, User:Prad2609
[1] - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline
[2] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Hist...
[3] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Historic_sites [4] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_India [5] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indian_history [6] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Photography On 16 March 2012 13:12, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Pradeep, I think you suggested INTACH, so I followed it up. Have sent them a mail and was searching thru their listings. A few cities do have comprehensive listing so we can expand our own list. Could I suggest that we start a list on our Wiki somewhere? That way we can draw upon sources and make our own big list.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Heya all,
glad to see this discussion happening! It means people care, and caring people is good! The list is there of course for your needs. We just set it up as a copy of the Dutch list, but you can make any adjustments to it that mailman will allow. Also, right now I'm admin, and I would also be happy to expand that to someone else - but maybe that is for later.
The list is mainly intended to make your life easier. In NL we indeed chose to keep private archives but open subscription - that way keeping it out of google, but anyone who wanted to join discussion could just do so and see the archive. That was like Noopur explained indeed mainly to avoid that discussions about partners end up on a private mail with many people in cc. So yeah, there are reasons - but it is up to you as a team to decide whether you want to maintain the status quo :)
Best,
Lodewijk
No dia 16 de Março de 2012 07:48, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.comescreveu:
Not really but when Lodewijk offered to create this list, we had a couple
of concerns like communicating with organizations and exploring possibilities of partnership (because WLM participants have done that in the past). So, I wasn't sure if these conversations should be public. However, now that we have substantial number of people on the list, we could just take a vote and figure out the best combination. Regards Noopur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan < srik.lak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl.
Is there a reason the archives should to be private?
-- Regards Srikanth.L
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Accurately put, Pradeep. I would like to add that chances are there is no authoritative and complete list of monuments outside the Archaeological Survey of India which has its HQ in New Delhi. We may need to co-opt them to get details of what they list as monuments and heritage buildings throughout the country. We should be prepared to hack our own state/district/city lists in the meantime and keep updating them as we come across new information. Reliable information on this issue is scarce.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
Going through the Timeline for Wiki Loves Monuments 2012[1], I sent a mail to Lodewijk for what they meant by "start a heritage project on your local wikipedia and analyse if the community wants to join your project". To which he sent these two WikiProjects as examples[2][3]. I went to search for similar WikiProjects in India and since User:AshLin was around on chat, I asked him for help. He provided me this list of helpful projects under WikiProject India[4].
Since this was a picture related project, User:AshLin did not want to burden them on any of the "pure article based departments".
This is the condition so far. The only group that has the closest connection to the Wiki Loves Monuments is the Indian history workgroup[5]. As a hack for User:AshLin's concern, I suggested that the Photography department[6] of WP:India be given the role and that it work with the Indian history workgroup in this particular case. This work was supposed to be done in February, but hopefully we can do it now.
Going back to Noopur's email, once the Indian history workgroup is okay, we can seek their help in putting together the list of Monuments. I also wonder if INTACH can be involved as an institutional partner, but that comes much later, I guess. Wikipedia first.
I would love to hear any alternatives to this idea of taking Wiki Loves Monuments or would love to see a discussion on the talk pages of this group to their perception on Wiki Loves Monuments and if they'll be interested in being involved. Any help is welcome!
warm regards, User:Prad2609
[1] - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline
[2] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Hist...
[3] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Historic_sites [4] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_India [5] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indian_history [6] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Photography
On 16 March 2012 13:12, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Pradeep, I think you suggested INTACH, so I followed it up. Have sent them a mail and was searching thru their listings. A few cities do have comprehensive listing so we can expand our own list. Could I suggest that we start a list on our Wiki somewhere? That way we can draw upon sources and make our own big list.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Heya all,
glad to see this discussion happening! It means people care, and caring people is good! The list is there of course for your needs. We just set it up as a copy of the Dutch list, but you can make any adjustments to it that mailman will allow. Also, right now I'm admin, and I would also be happy to expand that to someone else - but maybe that is for later.
The list is mainly intended to make your life easier. In NL we indeed chose to keep private archives but open subscription - that way keeping it out of google, but anyone who wanted to join discussion could just do so and see the archive. That was like Noopur explained indeed mainly to avoid that discussions about partners end up on a private mail with many people in cc. So yeah, there are reasons - but it is up to you as a team to decide whether you want to maintain the status quo :)
Best,
Lodewijk
No dia 16 de Março de 2012 07:48, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.comescreveu:
Not really but when Lodewijk offered to create this list, we had a
couple of concerns like communicating with organizations and exploring possibilities of partnership (because WLM participants have done that in the past). So, I wasn't sure if these conversations should be public. However, now that we have substantial number of people on the list, we could just take a vote and figure out the best combination. Regards Noopur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan < srik.lak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl.
Is there a reason the archives should to be private?
-- Regards Srikanth.L
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Also hope the Indic languages will also participate and improve articles on the monument of their states and those of national importance.
User:prad2609 Handheld On Mar 16, 2012 2:00 PM, "Ashwin Baindur" ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
Accurately put, Pradeep. I would like to add that chances are there is no authoritative and complete list of monuments outside the Archaeological Survey of India which has its HQ in New Delhi. We may need to co-opt them to get details of what they list as monuments and heritage buildings throughout the country. We should be prepared to hack our own state/district/city lists in the meantime and keep updating them as we come across new information. Reliable information on this issue is scarce.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
Going through the Timeline for Wiki Loves Monuments 2012[1], I sent a mail to Lodewijk for what they meant by "start a heritage project on your local wikipedia and analyse if the community wants to join your project". To which he sent these two WikiProjects as examples[2][3]. I went to search for similar WikiProjects in India and since User:AshLin was around on chat, I asked him for help. He provided me this list of helpful projects under WikiProject India[4].
Since this was a picture related project, User:AshLin did not want to burden them on any of the "pure article based departments".
This is the condition so far. The only group that has the closest connection to the Wiki Loves Monuments is the Indian history workgroup[5]. As a hack for User:AshLin's concern, I suggested that the Photography department[6] of WP:India be given the role and that it work with the Indian history workgroup in this particular case. This work was supposed to be done in February, but hopefully we can do it now.
Going back to Noopur's email, once the Indian history workgroup is okay, we can seek their help in putting together the list of Monuments. I also wonder if INTACH can be involved as an institutional partner, but that comes much later, I guess. Wikipedia first.
I would love to hear any alternatives to this idea of taking Wiki Loves Monuments or would love to see a discussion on the talk pages of this group to their perception on Wiki Loves Monuments and if they'll be interested in being involved. Any help is welcome!
warm regards, User:Prad2609
[1] - http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2012/Timeline
[2] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_National_Register_of_Hist...
[3] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Historic_sites [4] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_India [5] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Indian_history [6] - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_India/Photography
On 16 March 2012 13:12, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Pradeep, I think you suggested INTACH, so I followed it up. Have sent them a mail and was searching thru their listings. A few cities do have comprehensive listing so we can expand our own list. Could I suggest that we start a list on our Wiki somewhere? That way we can draw upon sources and make our own big list.
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.orgwrote:
Heya all,
glad to see this discussion happening! It means people care, and caring people is good! The list is there of course for your needs. We just set it up as a copy of the Dutch list, but you can make any adjustments to it that mailman will allow. Also, right now I'm admin, and I would also be happy to expand that to someone else - but maybe that is for later.
The list is mainly intended to make your life easier. In NL we indeed chose to keep private archives but open subscription - that way keeping it out of google, but anyone who wanted to join discussion could just do so and see the archive. That was like Noopur explained indeed mainly to avoid that discussions about partners end up on a private mail with many people in cc. So yeah, there are reasons - but it is up to you as a team to decide whether you want to maintain the status quo :)
Best,
Lodewijk
No dia 16 de Março de 2012 07:48, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.comescreveu:
Not really but when Lodewijk offered to create this list, we had a
couple of concerns like communicating with organizations and exploring possibilities of partnership (because WLM participants have done that in the past). So, I wasn't sure if these conversations should be public. However, now that we have substantial number of people on the list, we could just take a vote and figure out the best combination. Regards Noopur
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan < srik.lak@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:33, Noopur noopur.raval@gmail.com wrote:
> We have already forwarded this to our relevant Wiki loves monuments > list just to avoid flooding this one. Here is the list address: > wlm-in@lists.wmnederland.nl. >
Is there a reason the archives should to be private?
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