Hi,
In India, We have electricity and internet problems, and even Offline Wikipedia also shows limitation if person is unable to read/person with disabilities to read..
It may be useful to have *basic health related Indic articles* covered on Spoken Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages . It will create general awareness about common diseases like Diabetics, Cancer, Dengue etc.
(Multimedia) Mobile Phones penetration in rural area is high, and Indic Language Spoken articles can be circulated easily via chain messaging or via operators.
Please have a look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_La...
What do you think?
Best Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, User:AbhiSuryawanshi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/About_Us
Just a suggestion. Why not put up such projects on Meta/ Keeping them on the English wikipedia brings about a misconception that it is restricted to English.
P.S: I've been told that the words 'Indic' and 'Vernacular' are derogatory. Let's say Indian languages shall we?
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi < i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
In India, We have electricity and internet problems, and even Offline Wikipedia also shows limitation if person is unable to read/person with disabilities to read..
It may be useful to have *basic health related Indic articles* covered on Spoken Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages . It will create general awareness about common diseases like Diabetics, Cancer, Dengue etc.
(Multimedia) Mobile Phones penetration in rural area is high, and Indic Language Spoken articles can be circulated easily via chain messaging or via operators.
Please have a look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_La...
What do you think?
Best Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, User:AbhiSuryawanshi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/About_Us
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2012/11/13 Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.ramk@wikimedia.in:
P.S: I've been told that the words 'Indic' and 'Vernacular' are derogatory.
Citation needed. I hope not to derail this thread, but AFAIK there's nothing derogatory in these words. I don't even know why do you mention "vernacular", which didn't appear in the email. Correct me if I'm missing anything.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Amir, I was merely told by someone. I was told that both words were derogatory [at the same time, hence I mentioned both]. If you wish to discuss this further, we can take it offlist.
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
2012/11/13 Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.ramk@wikimedia.in:
P.S: I've been told that the words 'Indic' and 'Vernacular' are
derogatory.
Citation needed. I hope not to derail this thread, but AFAIK there's nothing derogatory in these words. I don't even know why do you mention "vernacular", which didn't appear in the email. Correct me if I'm missing anything.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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2012/11/13 Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com:
Amir, I was merely told by someone. I was told that both words were derogatory [at the same time, hence I mentioned both]. If you wish to discuss this further, we can take it offlist.
If he didn't explain it, then you can presume that it's wrong. There's nothing to discuss, and there's nothing wrong with saying "Indic languages".
-- Amir
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Amir E. Aharoni < amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
If he didn't explain it, then you can presume that it's wrong. There's nothing to discuss, and there's nothing wrong with saying "Indic languages".
Heh, I didn't know you became a cultural authority on what words were wrong, from the last few visit(s) to India. :P Anyway, It would be any linguist's folly to presume the cultural context of words, without knowing the culture and what precedes the word. I suppose this should give Anirudh the same authority to instruct what words are wrong in context of your homeland, incognizant of any political undertones and cultural issues?
Besides that particular part, I agree with you.
Regards Theo
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Theo10011 de10011@gmail.com wrote:
Heh, I didn't know you became a cultural authority on what words were wrong, from the last few visit(s) to India. :P Anyway, It would be any linguist's folly to presume the cultural context of words, without knowing the culture and what precedes the word. I suppose this should give Anirudh the same authority to instruct what words are wrong in context of your homeland, incognizant of any political undertones and cultural issues?
Ignoring the somewhat ad hominem nature of the argument, you do realize that "Indic" is something that is used at the Unicode Consortium to denote the group of Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants.
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 9:03 AM, ஆமாச்சு amachu@amachu.net wrote:
On Friday 16 November 2012 08:54 AM, sankarshan wrote:
Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants.
barring Tamil :-)
The Wikipedia seems to use Indic and Brahmic scripts as synonyms of each other. Does your contention hold in that case ?
Admittedly, we are a bit off the original topic.
On Friday 16 November 2012 09:13 AM, sankarshan wrote:
The Wikipedia seems to use Indic and Brahmic scripts as synonyms of each other. Does your contention hold in that case ?
well, my opinion is that these have evolved in a complimentary/ collaborative environment & certainly Tamil couldn't have existed in seclusion any-time in the past.
--
ஆமாச்சு
As far as this discussion is concerned, it does not seem that we need to be much bothered about the history and background. What we need to focus on is the word in its current context, so, Indic and Indian languages, with particular reference to display standards, and therefore the direction of work needed to ensure that pages can display correctly on as many devices as follow the standards.
From recent posts, it seems that Unicode acknowledges two families of
scripts, namely Indic and Brahmic. If this is the correct situation, I see no confusion in defining the work ahead.
2012/11/16 Vickram Crishna vvcrishna@radiophony.com:
From recent posts, it seems that Unicode acknowledges two families of scripts, namely Indic and Brahmic. If this is the correct situation, I see no confusion in defining the work ahead.
No - Indic scripts and Brahmic scripts are two words for the same thing, at least in Unicode documents.
-- Amir
Ohai
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 8:54 AM, sankarshan foss.mailinglists@gmail.comwrote:
Ignoring the somewhat ad hominem nature of the argument, you do realize that "Indic" is something that is used at the Unicode Consortium to denote the group of Indo-European languages comprising Sanskrit and the modern Indian languages that are its descendants.
And?
I don't recall using any argument that suggests Indic can not mean a group of Indo-European languages, just that it differs with context. In fact, usage by the a specialized body, and not a general one, lends credence to the argument that its usage is differential based on context.
And Last, Unicode Consortium is what you should be taking the lead from, when it comes to word usage - Not a dictionary, its etymology, or cultural usage within a continent, because a non-profit based in US registered in the 90s, would be the appropriate authority to define what the correct usage of a word would be.
-Theo
Good initiative Abhishek !!
You can also try out .. http://dhvani.sourceforge.net/ http://silpa.org.in/TTS
Thanks, Naveen Francis http://wikibooks.in
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Abhishek Suryawanshi < i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
In India, We have electricity and internet problems, and even Offline Wikipedia also shows limitation if person is unable to read/person with disabilities to read..
It may be useful to have *basic health related Indic articles* covered on Spoken Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_Languages . It will create general awareness about common diseases like Diabetics, Cancer, Dengue etc.
(Multimedia) Mobile Phones penetration in rural area is high, and Indic Language Spoken articles can be circulated easily via chain messaging or via operators.
Please have a look at - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Spoken_Wikipedia/Indic_La...
What do you think?
Best Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, User:AbhiSuryawanshi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:AbhiSuryawanshi On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune/About_Us
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