On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunaraoc@gmail.com wrote:
The advantage of separately hosted Wikisource is that the artefacts are self contained and can be used readily. Photographic media will be mainly useful, when they are embedded in an article. May be non WMF projects can use the same. Unfortunately, this leads to fragmentation in the sense there is no one source for the sum of human knowledge.
the last sentence made me think. Indeed! Todays political systems want to preserve the fragmented space, fragmented knowledge and also protect ownership of those fragments. This they do by signing bilateral treaties. Due to these unfortunate incompatibilities creative commons chapters in different countries have to write their own versions of CC licenses. As the creative commons movement grows big, we can nullify these treaties (such as TRIPS or ACTA) and achieve that sum of human knowledge in one place.
-- GN
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Nagarjuna G nagarjun@gnowgi.org wrote:
On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunaraoc@gmail.com wrote:
The advantage of separately hosted Wikisource is that the artefacts are
self
contained and can be used readily. Photographic media will be mainly
useful,
when they are embedded in an article. May be non WMF projects can use
the
same. Unfortunately, this leads to fragmentation in the sense there is
no
one source for the sum of human knowledge.
the last sentence made me think. Indeed! Todays political systems want to preserve the fragmented space, fragmented knowledge and also protect ownership of those fragments. This they do by signing bilateral treaties. Due to these unfortunate incompatibilities creative commons chapters in different countries have to write their own versions of CC licenses. As the creative commons movement grows big, we can nullify these treaties (such as TRIPS or ACTA) and achieve that sum of human knowledge in one place.
Interesting. Probably that will be true for new content. Old content will have to age sufficiently to qualify for free sharing under the laws of different countries of the world. That may be too long a time for all enthusiasts of free sharing :-(
Cheers Arjun
Hey All:
A first draft is here:
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiSource_and_Commons_Hosted_in_India
Would appreciate your comments and edits on the Wiki, please, to help flesh this out.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
The only threat I can see is the proposal to the GOI to unilaterally push back public domain dates to fall in conformity with EU guidelines. Gautam had circulated a post about this some time ago. If that happens, this idea gets shelved. We may consider the Canada option at the moment.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Gautam John gautam@prathambooks.orgwrote:
Hey All:
A first draft is here:
http://wiki.wikimedia.in/WikiSource_and_Commons_Hosted_in_India
Would appreciate your comments and edits on the Wiki, please, to help flesh this out.
Thank you.
Best,
Gautam ________ http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
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On 30 August 2011 11:19, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
The only threat I can see is the proposal to the GOI to unilaterally push back public domain dates to fall in conformity with EU guidelines. Gautam had circulated a post about this some time ago. If that happens, this idea gets shelved. We may consider the Canada option at the moment.
Thank you, Ashwin. That was on the issue of images only but, for example, there is still the issue of stuff that is currently in the PD in India but not outside India.
Or have I misunderstood this?
Best,
Gautam ________ http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html
wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org