Dear Abhishek,
CIS is not supporting travel expenses for Chapter EC meetings. Nor has CIS provided funding to the Chapter so far from the Wikipedia grant. CIS has provided in-kind support to the Chapter in previous financial years for ex. society registration costs and the costs of their financial adviser during their first financial year. We strongly suppor
This month, we are reimbursing the Chapter EC travel and related expenses because the Chapter EC has kindly consented to support a training programme that CIS is organising for it's A2K team in Bangalore. It is only happy coincidence that they were also organising a meeting in Bangalore during those dates. I was not aware of this when I reached out to the EC and asked for their support us.
Dear Friends,
In the first week of March, we hope to release a 6-monthly report of the utilization of the grant so far. Usually we only provide an annual consolidated report for all grants at the ledger group level. But for this particular grant we will increase the degree of transparency to address concerns of the community. If you have any suggestions on how we should structure this report or if you have any further questions about how CIS is spending the grant allocated do not hesitate to ask me.
Best wishes,
Sunil
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Training of CIS-A2K team on 23 or 24 of February Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 10:48:42 +0530 From: Sunil Abraham sunil@cis-india.org To: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-exec@lists.wikimedia.org
Attn: Sudhanwa Jogalekar Karthik Nadar Anirudh Singh Bhati Nikita Belavate Pranav Curumsey Srikanth Ramakrishnan Viswa Prabha
Dear Members of the Wikimedia India EC,
Hope 2013 has gotten of to an excellent start for all of you.
CIS is organising a training for the A2K team on the 22nd, 23rd and 24th of February in Bangalore. The new Programme Director - Vishnu Vardhan will also be attending this event. We would like the EC to spend one day training the team on a variety of issues. We would prefer if you opt for either 23rd or the 24th as we have some other trainers that have confirmed for the 22nd.
CIS will cover air travel and accommodation for all EC members. CIS will also provide per diem for meals that are not provided during the training. Unfortunately, we don't have a separate budget for fees.
This idea has been discussed with Anasuya Sengupta and Jessie Wild at the Wikimedia Foundation and they have supported it.
Best wishes,
Sunil
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Sunil,
Could you please share information about CIS supporting Chapter Travel expenses?
And Its nice and positive move, Great to see CIS continues to support movement in India. Volunteers can devote their time in doing activities and CIS can support as per request.
As Chapter is shy/silent about acknowledging funding from CIS - Hope so your reply will clarify that CIS is there to support Chapter activities irrespective of criticism.
Keep Supporting, Keep Inspiring! :)
Regards,
Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.ramk@wikimedia.in
To: Wikimedia India Community list wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] why to donate
Membership under processing is differnt from memvership alreadt processed. INDI-31 is non existant and will remain so.
As for CIS funding, you still havwn't said where you have got the "information" from. The Chapter has alwaya made things public and will xontinue to do so. If the CIS funds us, it will be madw public.
n Tuesday, February 12, 2013, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Srikanth, I appreciate you keep a check of the Chapter Membership List. But at the same time I guess you will also respect the Chapter President's word. I have had a talk with Sudhanwa (President,Wikimedia India Chapter) and just two days back he informed me that my Chapter-membership is being proceed. I would like you to have or increase your communications with other EC members (or at-least with President) before claiming me or anybody else with allegations such as a 'Cheat' :)
P.S : How does it affects my query about CIS funding chapter's travel for Board meeting or not ?
Regards, Abhishek Suryawanshi, On Behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.ramk@wikimedia.in wrote:
Just to inform you that Abhishek Suryawanshi, who claims to be a Chapter Member with membership number INDI-31 is NOT a member. The entry currently doesn't exist in our membership list. Mr. Suryawanshi was a member of the Chapter during the earlier Financial Year and did NOT renew his membership. I hope the community is now aware of what kind of people it is dealing with.
On 2/12/13, Abhishek Suryawanshi i.abhishek.suryawanshi@gmail.com wrote:
*@Karthik - *
*If you have a question, you can ask it in the form of a question *
Why Chapter is denying/ignoring fact flight tickets for members are covered by third party?
*instead **of making unsubstantiated claims on a public mailing list,*
Do you mean to say 'CIS is supporting' part is unsubstantiated? Then please state who is covering travel expenses?
*which is frankly unproductive since it requires us to spend time to send
out clarifications. *
Could you please elaborate 'unproductive' term and 'sending out clarification' part? What clarification is given? On contrary You are putting up efforts to blur whole situation.
*@Sudhanwa - *
*> 2)Major Chapter Expenses such as Flight Tickets for AGM are covered by
CIS.
Absolutely wrong information you have go*t.
AGM word is wrong and Board Meeting is correct, right? Please correct if wrong.
*> I am waiting for someone to answer simple query - How much money is
required > for next year activities? and Which activities are planned?
Grant requests are always on public wiki and the numbers are always open to all for discussions. You will find these details in the upcoming requests. Asaf has already indicated the same on the list.
If you have any activities planned, please let us know. We will plan the resources accordingly (budgets, people etc) Same request also goes to all the people in the community. Please let us know what you want to do. We are here to support you in whatever best way we can. Do not hesitate to ask for suppo*rt.
It seems you are missing out whole point, I am talking about fixed expenses and 'possible' activities. Like Board meeting travel expenses. Which can be covered and are (already) getting covered by third parties like CIS.
So it makes more sense to spend volunteer efforts on outreach kind of activities than running for money? specially when third parties are interested in supporting financially?
When CIS is wrong, there is hard criticism, and when they support financially - I guess there could be minimum acknowledgement?. I think CIS may help chapter to cover other expenses also if needed. So Chapter can focus on productive outreach and activities?
*@Dhaval - *
*> 1)Chapter is having 1.5 Lack+ Rupees in existing account. *
*And what do you think could be done by that HUGE AMOUNT of 1.5+ Indian Rupees?*
*I think chapter has its office in Bangalore and based on my experience, I know that any property requires paying off few bills, e.g. electricity, water, property tax, tel/internet (if it has got) and these things are not so cheap in Today's India as they were in my days of teen (20 years ago).*
That is base amount, Someone from Chapter might be able to answer exact fixed expenses? Its always easy to find 'in-kind' donations as compared to cash. Its difficult specially when tax exemption is missing. And it might need extra efforts to run for money. And why? There are people/organization which are taking care of expenses already!
These expenses can be covered easily if there is clarity on 'what is needed'.
I have already explained 'in-kind' donation concept, Please see : http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia
-- Srikanth Ramakrishnan Member of the Executive Committee Wikimedia Chapter [India]
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