Thank you, Bala. I concur with your thoughts. The questions that you have raised must be addressed, if the IEP program wishes to retain any objectivity in the learning process.
anirudh
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.comwrote:
Ram,
The points i raised need to be asked and they are missing and i am raising them. This isnt about negative/positive tone. Any project that causes a three month long clean up effort involving hundreds of regular editors needs to document how much time and effort it is costing and what is its impact on the regular functioning of the project. Without that there is no real learning, especially when the program execs are seeking to repeat it.
Bala
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav < ramshankaryadav@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Bala, I'm glad that you came up with few more questions but most of them are in negative tone. We would love to have few questions from you pointing on few of the good things as well.
Please don't mind, it's not personal.
Thanks, Ram
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:23 PM, Bala Jeyaraman sodabottle@gmail.comwrote:
Somethings vital that are missing:
- How many regular editors were required to clean up the articles. How
many reverts/cleanup edits were required to clean up after the IEP students. 2) How many admin actions/interventions were required - warnings, blocks, mergers, deletions, AFDs 3) How many regular volunteer hours were spent on this project. 4) How much did the new page patrollers (NPP) backlog increase because of IEP 5) How much did the copyright cleanup investigations (CCI) backlog increase because of IEP 6) How long is it going to take to clean everything up. What do the NPP/CCI project members feel about the extra workload. 7) What was the impact on the existing en wiki community. How their attitude towards such a program has been damaged.
A supplimentary question: Are kudpung, moonriddengirl, fluffernutter, Voceditenore, spacemanspiff et al being interviewed?
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM, sankarshan <foss.mailinglists@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Nitika ntandon@wikimedia.org wrote:
We want to collate data points to be able to analyze and draw out
trends.
Here is an example of data that we're trying to dig out (and this is
just a
sub-set of a preliminary list)
Sharing the entire list of data points would be a nice thing to have. If it is possible.
What's the amount of data that students have added to Wikipedia?
What's the
amount of data that got reverted? What's the net amount of
information that
the students have added on Wikipedia?
The above should lend themselves to instrumentation and should be somewhat trivially available.
How many students edited articles outside of their in-class
assignments?
This is an interesting and non-trivial question. Which prompts me to ask - why would you want to track this ?
How many student's got warnings on their talk pages? How many students corrected their errors after these warnings? How many students got blocked? / How many students got blocked more
than
once?
Again, the above should be easily instrumented. At least, the initial nature of the questions look that way.
-- sankarshan mukhopadhyay http://sankarshan.randomink.org/blog
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