Correction: by Dravidian language in Pakistan I suppose you meant Brahui, which has a couple of million speakers. Doesn't appear to be much writing in the language though. We will have to find out more.
And one more comment on your suggestion about using 'Indic-Dravidian': do remember that we have several languages in the north-east which are part of neither of these groupings, since they are from the Tibeto-Burman family of languages! This is what I meant by the problem of using philological classifications and terminology.
TN
On 13 February 2013 18:38, Tejaswini Niranjana teju@cscs.res.in wrote:
Hi Niraj, Thanks for engaging with this difficult question. I think we may have to look at sizeable populations speaking a certain language while deciding how to classify where it is spoken. I was surprised to see your remark that Dravidian languages are spoken in Pakistan. I was not aware of this fact, and would like to know if it is the odd speaker who happens to live or work there, or there are good-sized populations speaking Kannada or Telugu for example.
As for your suggestion about a combination name like Indic-Dravidian, that still falls into the philological problems that using 'Indic' alone does,and doesn't necessarily make the term more inclusive.
So I think we will have to keep discussing this issue for some more time!
Tejaswini
On 11 February 2013 13:59, Niraj Suryawanshi niraj.suryawanshi@gmail.comwrote:
Dear Mam,
I understand & appreciate the depth of thought process and inputs put behind this question about use of words "*Indian*" or "*Indic*". I'm very much convinced since all the languages we are considering belong to different classes and categories, geographically and origin wise too, and needs to be labeled under a common name!
But if we consider the label Indian languages, which specifies the origin and use of the same in India, there are many languages which are predominantly used not only in India but also in the other surrounding counties eg. Bangla (Indic Language, Indo-Aryan) which is used in India, Bangladesh & Burma. And many other Dravidian Languages which are thought to be specifically South Indian languages are used in neighboring eastern countries like Pakistan too.
This question will arise every time when we have to specify "Indian Language" or "Indic Languages" for any given reason.
How about the combination of names of both different language families so that the language set wont be distributed with respect to the current territorial boundaries but with regards to their origin and a proper classification depending upon the origin/birth. viz "*Indic - Dravidian Languages*"
This was my personal view over the query, you can always correct me if I'm misleading.
Regards & Thanks,
Niraj Suryawanshi on behalf of Wikipedia Club Pune
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