Please ref to the previous post titled "The GLAM Challenge).
Part 1 consisting of Posts (two) by Ashwin Baindur given below
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 7:52 PM Subject: The challenge : Was Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Liam Wyatt's visit to India To: Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com, "Jogalekar, Sudhanwa" sudhanwa.com@gmail.com Cc: "Agarwal, Shirish" shirishag75@gmail.com
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com wrote:
This is a very big challenge in so many dimensions, I kid you not.
Let's discuss this in more detail.
The way I understand it, the objective of GLAM Wiki is to bring a host of material in conventional repositories onto the free domain (I dont want to call it public domain). WikiMedia Foundation has made some progress in this issue as one occasionally sees : * Bits of news from the blogs or Signpost mentioning them. * The Commons page announces these deals prominently. They also included details & links to Commons Projects wherein these images are to be sorted/categorised/processed in some way by the editors.
The TropenMuseum is a museum in Amsterdam about the Tropics. The museum has a large collection of objects and photographs about the Tropics. The museum will donate images about two former Dutch colonies, Suriname and Indonesia, to Commons. The first uploads are about Suriname and particularly the Maroon culture from Suriname and it is followed by material that has Indonesia as its subject. Indonesian Wikipedians have agreed to translate all the Dutch captions and metadata into Bahasa Indonesia so that the people of Indonesia could interact with the material.
The State Library Of Queensland has donated 50,000 public domain images, with metadata, to Wikimedia Commons. The ages fall under 50,000 subject headings, which need to be mapped to Commons categories. Editors need to do this. A bot is uploading the images.
Now, what is not known are the exact specifics of what such an engagement with a GLAM consists of and what are the responsibilities and expectations. It would help if WikiMedia Foundation made some guidelines and documentation on these materials. But using common sense, I'm sure it will go along these lines...
* Liaison with the GLAM institution. Sell the idea to them. * Work out the crux point - the freedom issues, especially in light of copyright, local and international rights. * Examine all stakeholder issues and resolve them. * Work out the details of the activities, roles, responsibilities and partnership to concurrence of all. * Ideally create a CPM/PERT chart for monitoring. * Arranging funding for some of the activities. * Outreach with the community to get them to buy into helping out with the crowdsourced activities. * Legal vetting of the agreement. This has to be between WikiMedia Foundation and GLAM Institution not us editors.
Only then... * Write up an agreement. * Begin operations, monitor, report, sort out issues, blah, blah..... * Publicity and get good PR.
In this case, we need to understand, who are the stakeholders - * GLAM Institution(s), * Wikimedia Foundation, * State Govt of India, * Central Govt of India, * Pointsman for GLAM activities on behalf of WMF (Witty Lama), * WMF's India office (Bishakha till its established), * Local Editors chapter of Pune ( us ) * Wikimedia India (Arun Ram) * press * society in general * Editors around the world (including India) * Funding agencies * contractors
In such a complex environment, what is our standing to engage the GLAM institution such as Kelkar Museum?
Let WikiMedia Foundation (Witty Lama, Bishakha et al) work out the modalities for a GLAM project in India.
Should the pointsmen (who should "own" the project) be an editor or a WMF rep?
Ideally, WMF needs to hire a full time guy to be on this and work out the specifics of a hundred issues who can mentor the Indian projects thorough the project in case some editor takes up the pointsmans role for a project.
Bishakha, we need integration for an India English Wikipedia community because thats whom the Foundation will have to fall back on to support it. We cant be talking on lists parochially as is happening in in terms of Pune, Mumbai, Bangalore or in terms of Kn, Ml, Mr WPs for GLAM projects as GLAM projects provide knowledge and resources to the complete world & wiki community, definitely India's (my additions in tis email) independent of language of Wikipedia platform.
As regards, the integration etc which needs to be discussed in more detail, I started off plannning to do that but wrote a wholly different email instead :-).
These are my thoughts, for your consideration
Bishakha, you may like to cc this to Witty Lama if you feel it is appropriate Ashwin
Ashwin Baindur previously wrote :.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ashwin Baindur ashwin.baindur@gmail.com Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Liam Wyatt's visit to India To: Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa.com@gmail.com Cc: Bishakha Datta bishakhadatta@gmail.com
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On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Sudhanwa Jogalekar sudhanwa.com@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
If there is some interest in doing something with Raja Kelkar Museum, Pune ( http://www.rajakelkarmuseum.com ), I can connect to the main person there.
He is also "Sudhanwa" and I know him for ages :-)
-Sudhanwa
Dear Sudhanwa,
Thanks for the offer about the Kelkar Museum. I have pondered over it and, uncharacteristically for me, I feel we should wait for the GLAM-Wiki scene to come about in Pune. The short time of Liam's stay in India, little chance of his visiting Pune and our own commitments at GNUNIFY are indicators against doing anything right now more than meeting and exchanging ideas.
Another reason, we have not quite built up our Wikipedian community in Pune as yet. The problem is not so much of Kelkar Museum agreeing to provides its treasures for outreach but that we may not be able to live upto the expectations. Tremendous amount of work will be involved. Typically a museum may donate images in thousands or even hundreds of thousands. The Troppenmuseum and Queensland Museum examples come to mind. Typically, there are expectations on the editor community for participating in batch process activities, such as going over the material, sorting it out, uploading, categorising etc.
Bishakha, we need integration for an India English Wikipedia community because thats whom the Foundation will have to fall back on to support it. We cant be talking on lists parochially as is happening in in terms of Pune, Mumbai, Bangalore or in terms of Kn, Ml, Mr WPs for GLAM projects as GLAM projects provide knowledge and resources independent of language of Wikipedia platform. This is a very big challenge in so many dimensions, I kid you not.
So what should we do in the meantime? As per me for the Pune chapter- we could finish our GNUNIFY event, and meet Witty Lama. After that, we may reach out to Kelkar Museum and explore possibilities before we commit. Our Community of Wikipedians both Puneri & National need development before we commit to support any GLAM venture.
Warm regards,
Ashwin Baindur ------------------------------------------------------