There is lot to say. But i don't want to derail this thread. Pls start a new thread.
On 16/12/2011, Anivar Aravind anivar.aravind@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Praveen Prakash me.praveen@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't seen any communication in any open platform with Malayalam Community members about this matter. A few weeks before I had a brief discussion with Santhosh about webfonts. But it was nothing about webfonts' rendering bugs. Infact, popular (and beautiful) Malayalam fonts are open licensed, but there are other rendering bugs. Issue I raised was about an unnessessory char code change doing by webfonts which I felt a propaganda pushing in favor of his idea about some characters, and which need additional scripts on both client (= additional bandwidth) and server. But Santhosh quit the thread claiming my concerns are my pure imaginations. :) Naturally thread died.
Praveen Do you mean this bug ? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29005
The bug speaks itself .
From a quick reading I felt what you were asking is to use not properly forked font projects in webfonts, when santhosh took a stand to use fonts them from upstream.
On Normalization of characters, it is an optional feature, for visibility of some chillus , that can be disabled in user settings if needed. It perfectly makes sense for me, since dual encoding is an issue in Malayalam , and the fix need to be on Unicode . The Webfonts hack is just a positive step and optional fix to ensure, people will not be missed from accessing knowledge in wikipedia , based on browser restrictions.
Anivar
I know Malayalam Wikimedian 'Vssun' tried to have an open conversation on Gerard's talk page, after Gerard's notice, but didn't see any development. As far as now I know no one, who was sure about webfonts deployment on ml projects.
I certainly do not want webfonts in its current form in any of the Malayalam Wikiprojects. But I want to know why Malayalam is excluded from this deployment and I want to know why such a code deployed on many other wikies.
I personally don't like Santhosh's enthusiasm to fly his scripts on wikimedia servers, based on his "I am correct, I am correct, I am the only correct" attitude.
If webfonts is too bad for your language, I urge you to file a bug for removing it.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.ghoda@gmail.com wrote:
If you want to test something new, either make it opt in, or don't do it live. Not on Tamil, not on Hindi, not on any Wikipedia for that matter.
On 12/14/11, Ravishankar ravidreams@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.comwrote:
I dont think its appropriate to be a bit more experimental. You are seeing the scale in absolute sense, we are seeing it in relative sense. Tamil Wikipedia is 7th most-viewed Tamil site.
+1. Similar stats can be observed for most of the Indic language Wiki projects with sizable content as they are the only / major source of reference online for the respective languages.
Ravi
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