Hi Samuel,
I'm an inclusionist myself and most editors in Tamil Wiki are either inclusionists are mergists. A few have concerns that a random sampler might get a mistaken impression about Tamil Wiki, which is one of the most well-written collaborative websites in Tamil language. As far as these articles are concerned, there's bipartisan support for the view that the quality has to improve.
As a last resort, we've proposed an observation period in yesterday's call with the Google team. We do understand that they mean well for the Wiki, but have a feeling that the constraints imposed by the modus operandi make it not work for us. In yesterday's call, we've conveyed the Tamil Wiki consensus to the Google team and they've agreed to encourage their translators to engage like regular users. We hope that things will improve if that is followed in spirit.
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted." - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
----- Original Message ----
From: Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 1:03:24 AM Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles
Hello Srikanth,
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Srikanth
Ramakrishnan
<
href="mailto:rsrikanth05@gmail.com">rsrikanth05@gmail.com> wrote:
Samuel, As a Vandalism reverter on the English Wikipedia, let me inform you that, when a person posts nonsense, EVEN if it is useful, but has a problem, like lacking sources OR, grammatical nonsense. IT still gets reverted, the guy gets a warning, he comes back, revert plus warn again and ultimately, he gets the boot. It happens quite often. I've done it rarely, because the
This is a set of aggressive policies developed over
time by a large
wiki. In the early days of English WP, when it was the
size that
Tamil WP is now, this was certainly not the case for
well-meaning
contributors.
I do not know that the current en:wp
policies represent best practices
-- the research from the strategy project
suggests that they are
limiting growth and editor retention -- and in
particular smaller
wikis may have other needs and priorities.
Of
course ta:wp is welcome to adopt any policies that you wish, but I
would not
advise doing so simply because the English Wikipedia does.
Warmly, SJ
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