* Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please stop exaggerating things? *
Try deploying this kind of code to english wikipedia and you will find out our response is extremely mild. A website that is getting million page views shouldnt be used as a live test bed for a mandatory default feature. We have been boasting that wikipedia are among the top 5 websites in the world. Try rolling out this kind of code in any of the top 100 websites as a mandatory default feature and see what happens.
*Please be constructive and help us as you were doing*
So stating the truth is being unconstructive?. You could have rolled this out in phases or as a "dark launch" as you are contemplating now, done more testing and saved us all this bitterness and trouble. Instead you decided to go live on a massive scale without adequate testing in live environment being accessed by millions of people everyday. What kind of reaction did your expect?.
I could have been content with stopping the Tamil deployment and went on with my work. Instead i have spent nearly 20 hours testing other languages so that this tool gets better. Remember i am a volunteer, taking time off from my day job to test your code - something you should have done as part your professional work.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Santhosh Thottingal < santhosh.thottingal@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik.lak@gmail.com wrote:
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-i18n/2011-December/000361.htm...
"In order to force them, "if you don't test this it may break horribly for you when deployed" seems way more convincing than "no new goodies for you"."
This attitude of i18n is not only very dangerous for the communities and languages but also very unprofessional.
Please read that mail once again, this was a response by Platonides(not an i18n team member) to the comment by Srikanth L . Srikanth said: " If people are not interested to join them, they must be forced to join
them(by way of not supporting them/ deploying any component for the language) so as to provide better support."
And now you are saying that it is the attitude of i18n and calling it dangerous and unprofessional! Wonderful Ravishankar.
. Nothing that breaks horrible must ever be deployed. We safeguarded Tamil(Malayalam folks did theirs too), we frankly didnt care much for others before the launch.
Srikanth, While I really appreciate the efforts you and Bala did with the testing and reporting bugs, this kind of comments really disappoint us. You are aware that the we were working round the clock to fix all the bugs within hours and we wrote the complete details in report. Safeguarding from a horrible deployment? Could you please stop exaggerating things? We did expect bugs when we do this kind of large scale deployment with too many languages, browsers, operating systems and we addressed each of the bugs within hours. Some of these bugs can be only detected when we expose the tool to a larger audience. You are aware of that. All the open bugs now present are are not in our control - Browser bugs and Fonts bug, we disabled them for time being.
Please be constructive and help us as you were doing. We deserve some appreciation for what we are doing.
-Santhosh
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