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Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] [Announcement] Howie Fung joins Wikimedia
by Jyothis E 05 May '10

05 May '10

FYI. Regards, Jyothis. http://www.Jyothis.net http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com woods are lovely dark and deep, but i have promises to keep and miles to go before i sleep and lines to go before I press sleep completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Erik Moeller <erik(a)wikimedia.org> Date: Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:27 PM Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] [Announcement] Howie Fung joins Wikimedia To: wikimediaannounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Hello all, I'm pleased to announce that Howie Fung, who has been supporting us as a consultant since October 2009, is joining the Wikimedia Foundation as Senior Product Manager. In the immediate future, Howie will continue to support the deployment of our user experience improvements, as well as the continuing development and deployment of the FlaggedRevs extension for the English Wikipedia. In the longer term, Howie will help us to build Wikimedia's product development roadmap by commissioning and assessing research and analytics, and by engaging in broad consultative processes. Most recently, Howie was Senior Product Manager at Rhapsody, where he helped grow the music site's traffic five-fold within the the first year on the basis of extensive customer research, including web analytics, focus groups, user testing, and customer surveys. Prior to that, Howie was Product Manager at eBay, prioritizing features based on business objectives, usability studies, and economic impact. Howie has more than 15 years of experience in product management, business analysis and strategy, technology evaluation, and team incubation. He has an MBA from The Anderson School at UCLA and a Bachelor of Science in Chemical Engineering from Stanford University. As a consultant, Howie completed several key projects, including the survey of former contributors [1], the analysis of feedback from the user experience beta [2], and extensive analysis of the user interface, workflows and terminology used in the FlaggedRevs extension. He has also supported Wikimedia's five-year business planning process. We're very pleased that Howie is joining Wikimedia's permanent staff: please join me in welcoming him! All best, Erik [1] http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Former_Contributors_Survey_Results [2] http://usability.wikimedia.org/wiki/Beta_Feedback_Survey -- Erik Möller Deputy Director, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ Please note: all replies sent to this mailing list will be immediately directed to Foundation-L, the public mailing list about the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects. For more information about Foundation-L: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l _______________________________________________ WikimediaAnnounce-l mailing list WikimediaAnnounce-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaannounce-l

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Fwd: [Foundation-l] Vandalize wikipedia day on facebook
by Jyothis E 03 May '10

03 May '10

All, This may be really targetting en wiki. May not be real threat either, but worth keeping an eye on. Any language wikis that faces too much of a trouble that is going out of hand can come in #wikimedia-stewards IRC channel to request fro help from Global sysops or stewards. Regards, Jyothis. http://www.Jyothis.net <http://www.jyothis.net/> http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com woods are lovely dark and deep, but i have promises to keep and miles to go before i sleep and lines to go before I press sleep completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources) + ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marco Chiesa <chiesa.marco(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:00 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] Vandalize wikipedia day on facebook To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Hi, a friend of mine just pointed out this event on facebook, a vandalize wikipedia day http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=110813902286034&ref=search&sid=674858… I'm not sure if WMF is aware, or if there is the possibility to close the page. Cruccone _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Fwd: [Foundation-l] Wikimania 2010: Call for Participation is there!
by Bishakha Datta 28 Apr '10

28 Apr '10

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marcin Cieslak <program(a)wikimania2010.pl> Date: Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:13 AM Subject: [Foundation-l] Wikimania 2010: Call for Participation is there! To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Wikimania is an annual global event devoted to Wikimedia projects around the globe (including Wikipedia, Wikibooks, Wikinews, Wiktionary, Wikispecies, Wikimedia Commons, and MediaWiki). The conference is a community gathering, giving the editors, users and developers of Wikimedia projects an opportunity to meet each other, exchange ideas, report on research and projects, and collaborate on the future of the projects. The conference is open to the public, and is a chance for educators, researchers, programmers and free culture activists who are interested in the Wikimedia projects to learn more and share ideas about the Wikimedia projects. This year's conference will be held JULY 9-11, 2010 in Gdansk, Poland at Polish Baltic Philharmonic. For more information, please visit the official Wikimania 2010 site: http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/ Wikimania 2010 will be a mix of submitted talks, open space meetings, birds of a feather groups, and lightning talks. Submissions will be discussed and selected in an informal process on the wiki. If your submission is not added to the schedule, you will still have many opportunities to bring topics forward on-site. IMPORTANT DATES * Deadline for submitting workshop, tutorial, panel and presentation proposals: May 20 * Notification of acceptance: May 25 (workshops), May 31 (panels, tutorials, presentations) * All proposals and presentations will be welcome in the Open Space track of the conference, whether or not they are accepted in this initial process. PROGRAM COMMITTEE Submissions will be reviewed informally by a team of volunteers. TRACKS This year Wikimania will offer three tracks for submissions for members of wiki communities and interested observers to share their own experiences and thoughts and to present new ideas: People and Community The People and Community track provides a unique forum for discussing topics related to people using/building wikis. Relevant topics include, but are not restricted to, the following: * Wiki Community: Conflict resolution and community dynamics; reputation and identity; * Wiki Outreach: Promotion of wikis and Wikimedia projects among the general public; * North meets south, east meets west: How can people of a different cultural background create an encyclopedia according to common rules? Same subject in the eye of different cultures. * Special: Wikipedia in Central/Eastern Europe: this theme will provide a forum to present and discuss the latest progress of Wikis in the central/eastern European community. Knowledge and Collaboration The Knowledge and Collaboration track aims to promote research and find exciting ideas related to knowledge... * Wiki Content: New ways to improve content quality, credibility; legal issues and copyrights (is free knowledge free?); use of the content in education, journalism, research; * Semantic Wikis: The use of semantic web technologies, linked data; semantic annotation and metadata (in particular manual vs. automated approaches). Infrastructure Track The Infrastructure track at Wikimania will provide a forum where both researchers and practitioners can share new approaches, applications, and explore how to make Wiki access ever more ubiquitous: * MediaWiki development: issues related to MediaWiki development and extensions; * Moving beyond MediaWiki: what other Wiki-like platforms exist; what tools and features do we need for collaboration on different types of knowledge? * Mobile Wikis: The Web is moving off the desktop and into mobile phones, how we use wikis on mobile devices?; wiki-based Augmented Reality (AR) applications, location based services * User Interface Design: Usability and user experience; accessibility, adaptive interfaces and personalization; novel UI designs. WIKISYM 2010 Please note that Wikimania 2010 is co-located with WikiSym, The International Symposium on Wikis and Open Collaboration. More information about WikiSym can be found on the conference website: http://www.wikisym.org/ SUBMIT A PROPOSAL To submit a proposal for a presentation, workshop, panel or tutorial, please visit: http://bit.ly/Submit2010 Thank you for helping make Wikimania 2010 a successful event. :-) See you in Gdansk, July 9-11! -- Marcin Cieslak Wikimania 2010 Gdansk _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

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Indian language Wikipedias – Statistical report – 2010 March
by Shiju Alex 26 Apr '10

26 Apr '10

Hello Wikimedains, I have compiled the statistical information of the Indian language Wikipedias for the month of *2010 March*. The report is published at <http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/indian-language-wikipedias-statis…> http://shijualex.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/indian-language-wikipedias-statis… . Since the *2010 March dumps* for some of Indian Language Wikipedias<http://www.infodisiac.com/cgi-bin/WikimediaDownload.pl?#projects>like Hindi, Marathi, Gujarathi, and so on are not yet available, the information (for some parameters) for those wikipedias are not included in this report. Hope the information will be available soon. But since it is already March 25, I do not want to wait until the information is available. I can include the updated information in the report for April month. The PDF of the report is available at Indian language Wikipedias – Statistical report – 2010 March<http://shijualex.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/2010_03_march_en.pdf> Shiju Alex

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] blog post
by Sundar 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

It definitely deserves attention. Please write to the Signpost editor and add a note at the outreach wiki too. Sundar Sent from my iPod On 18-Apr-2010, at 23:45, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hoi, I have blogged about the Malayalam CD project. I like it. I noticed that it did not appear on any of the blog aggregators. This is the kind of project that deserves more attention. Certainly when you blog in English, there is no reason why it should not be read by more of the Wikimedia community. Thanks, GerardM PS my blog is on two aggregators http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2010/04/best-of-malayalam-wikipedia.html _______________________________________________ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l

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Fwd: Re: [Board-l] Fwd: Fwd: Philosophical view on Google translated articles
by Bishakha Datta 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

Forwarded this to the board list, and got two more personal opinions from members. Was waiting to get permission from them to post on this list before doing so. Also, please keep in mind that these are personal opinions, no more or less. Best Bishakha >> On 21-04-2010 21:44, Jimmy Wales wrote: >>> On 4/21/10 12:45 PM, Ting Chen wrote: >>> >>>> Generally I would prefer such questions solved inside of the community >>>> and not by the foundation. The foundation cannot and should not solve >>>> every problem in every project. Meta or foundation-l are also places to >>>> search for advices and ask for experiences. >>>> >>> This is my view as well. And I don't think the Foundation should be >>> seen as encouraging such projects using machine language against the >>> interests of the community. If they find some good way to work with >>> google on this, that's great, but if not, that's also great. Subject: Re: [Board-l] Fwd: Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2010 20:20:53 +0200 From: Jimmy Wales <jwales(a)wikia-inc.com> <jwales(a)wikia-inc.com> Reply-To: board-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To: board-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org I am quite concerned about the kinds of issues that Ravi raises, and believe that machine translation is, on net, more likely to be harmful than helpful to most communities. Bishakha, you may want to wait before posting back to the Listserv, to get a broader view from other board members. -- Jimmy Wales Please follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/jimmy_wales _______________________________________________ Board-l mailing listBoard-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/board-l -------- Original Message -------- On 4/20/10 8:02 PM, Bishakha Datta wrote: > Hi all, > > This just popped up on the Wikimedia India listserve - with a question > in caps for the Foundation. Sue, or anyone on the board, any thoughts on > this? (specially the question in caps). > > I just checked out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid_editing. > > Best > Bishakha > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Ravishankar* < ravidreams(a)gmail.com <mailto:ravidreams@gmail.com> <ravidreams(a)gmail.com>> > Date: Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:19 PM > Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] Philosophical view on Google translated articles > To: wikimediaindia-l <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> <mailto:wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org><wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>> > > > Hi all, > > An update on the Google translated articles issue in Tamil Wiki.

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Re: Philosophical view on Google translated articles
by Samuel Klein 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

Hello, My first post on this list, and a long one :-) The topic of better supporting small language Wikipedias is one that is close to my heart. The foundation doesn't have any particular policy on third-party translations or article-writing projects. As Achal says, every community is welcome to use translation tools or not as they see fit; and to work with outside translation groups or not as they see fit. Ravi's concerns are valid -- people interested in translation as a whole may want to discuss some of these issues on the foundation and translation mailing lists -- you will find that there are many multilingual editors who are interested in the good (and bad) uses of GTT and other translation tools. == on the use of automatic translations == Automatic translations can be useful as one arrow in the quiver of a community of editors. For instance, I find it helpful for translated pages to have an automatic category, and a large cleanup template at top, something like: "this page was automatically translated by [TOOL] from [permalink to revision of article in another language]. It may need cleanup to meet [[STYLE GUIDE|community standards]]." In the case of Google and their Translation Toolkit, I think it would be good for Wikipedians to give them strong feedback about how they need to improve the tool for it to be more useful to Wikipedians. (and, if it is more of a nuisance than a help, the community should be clear that it is not helping.) == On Google's toolkit and translation work == Google has been fairly transparent about what they are doing, and has been in touch with the Foundation on a few occasions to ask for advice on how to make their tools more useful. I encourage them to ask the local communities directly for that advice... (however, they have had few direct responses from those language-communities. I observed this directly on swahili wikipedia - there were a few general commnts about the difficulties raised by GTT overwriting existing articles, but few specific feature requests / recommendations / requirements from the active swahili editors.) You can start a page for feature requests (and feature requirements) for this sort of translation -- and tell the Google translators (in particular) that all translations /must/ adhere to a certain style or format, or must be less invasive when an article already exists on the topic. (noone will continue a project if they know that its work is going to be reverted or removed.) > From: Srikanth Ramakrishnan <rsrikanth05(a)gmail.com> > > I agree with Shiju and Ramesh. I tried it out for Hindi. And the phrase 'A > fully charged battery' got translated to what would mean a battery that got > charged [the court charged]. It isn't all that accurate right now, but it > may improve. While to a certain extent, it may seem like Google is > catalising Localised content, you can clearly see that Google might be > trying to gain Monopoly over Wikipedia as well. I don't think they have any interest in gaining monopoly over Wikipedia. They are not storing the translated articles, only publishing them to Wikipedia. While they are storing the "translation memory" produced as a result, they make that available under a free license, for other translators or tools to use. Google has carried out similar projects in Arabic and Swahili among other languges; I helped with the recent Swahili Wikipedia Challenge, which was supported by GTT (for participants who wanted to use the toolkit to translate an article rather than writing one from scratch) -- but the resulting articles were rated based on their usefulness, so that poorly-translated articles did not rank highly. That was a largely community-driven translation effort, with a contest run and maintained by Swahili admins. http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:KWC Cheers, SJ -- Samuel Klein http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/user:sj

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 22, Issue 29
by Achal Prabhala 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

On translations and google in particular, my understanding is that it is up to each Wikipedia community to decide how/if to use translations as a whole, and whether google's translation tool is useful or not. I'm not aware of anything that either binds us or restricts us from using translation technologies, and my guess would be that you should decide on the basis of your experience. If you'd like to get a broader or comparative view, my suggestion would be to check in with the Board, ask Foundation staff members you know, or perhaps post to foundation-l and see if others have useful experience to share.

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimediaindia-l Digest, Vol 22, Issue 29
by Achal Prabhala 21 Apr '10

21 Apr '10

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Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Number of local Wikipedians
by BalaSundaraRaman 20 Apr '10

20 Apr '10

I think he deleted it because the title was in English. We should try pretty url on the real article on Malayalam. - Sundar from mobile On Wed Apr 21st, 2010 8:56 AM IST CherianTinu Abraham wrote: > Natkeeran deleted it. Notifying him regarding this thread >- Tinu Cherian > >On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Jyothis Edathoot <je(a)jyothis.net> wrote: > >> looks like that got deleted. >> >> Regards, >> Jyothis. >> >> http://www.Jyothis.net >> >> http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Added the template in Tamil Wiki and created one pretty url for the >>> article malayalam. For example see, >>> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malayalam >>> >>> Minor tweaking of template is required. We will help to fix it. >>> >>> Shiju >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Ravishankar <ravidreams(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Shiju. Should see if we can make sense from the malayalam page. >>>> Else, an english tutorial will be appreciated :) >>>> >>>> Interestingly, the contributor profile for Ta Wiki is quite similar to ml >>>> wiki >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&sho… >>>> >>>> Ravi >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:56 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Prettyurl >>>>> >>>>> Please see the source code of that template. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Ravishankar <ravidreams(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Shiju, >>>>>> >>>>>> Good to know. I agree that until each wiki should become self-reliant >>>>>> without the need to refer en wiki for everything. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pretty URL is cool. Is the script available? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Ravi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline(a)gmail.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Could the count be explained? May be because of good participation >>>>>>>> in talk pages, collaborative articles, regular copy edits >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let me try to answer your query, eventhough we stopped projecting the >>>>>>> depth parameter. Now we are concentrating more on parameters like * >>>>>>> edits/article*, *bytes per article*, *number of active users*, and so >>>>>>> on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - As you have mentioned above, depth shows the overall >>>>>>> collaboration. Edits in articles, talkpages, portal pages, templates, >>>>>>> images, and so on helped in increasing the article count. >>>>>>> - We are away from increasing the article count by creating >>>>>>> one-liners. Remove all junk one-liners and big articles with english only >>>>>>> content from your wiki. Depth will surely increase. >>>>>>> - Also the number edits are directly proportional to the number of >>>>>>> active and dedicated users. We have at least *40 users* with >>>>>>> number of edita more than 1000. >>>>>>> http://toolserver.org/~junaid/tools/editcount.php?wproject=wiki&wlan=ml&sho… 10 of them have number of edits more than 10,000. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All these have contributed depth of the wiki. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are not allowing anyone to create one-liners just for the sake of >>>>>>> increasing the article count. At least fundmental information is required in >>>>>>> each and every article that is created in Malayalam Wikipedia. Because of >>>>>>> that *our readers will not run to English wikipedia* to get the >>>>>>> fundamental information about a topic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are trying to attract readers to wiki. The CD project/book >>>>>>> project/wikiacademies/wiki meetups are all part of the public outreach >>>>>>> programs. We have many users *who only reads ml wikipedia*. *After >>>>>>> all if no one reads what we write, all our efforts are in vain.* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We give top priority to the usability part of the wiki. Because of >>>>>>> that, you can see many things in Malayalam Wikipedia *that are not >>>>>>> available in any other language wikipedia*. An example is *pretty url >>>>>>> *itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We are trying to reach the other language wikipedians to get to know >>>>>>> about their best practices. We feel no shy in copying their best practices. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are more things. I will write about that some time later. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As in Tamil Wikipedia, *we also have problem in getting local >>>>>>> Wikipedians to edit the wiki*. I will write about that later. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shiju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Ravishankar <ravidreams(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ramesh, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That's quite a good number. The arrangements for the meetup were also >>>>>>>> quite elaborate. well done. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am also curious about the depth of Malayalam Wiki. Could the count >>>>>>>> be explained? May be because of good participation in talk pages, >>>>>>>> collaborative articles, regular copy edits?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ravi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:18 PM, Ramesh N G <rameshng(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ravi >>>>>>>>> An apprx figures >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> # The total attendance was nearly 80 in the ml wiki meetup which >>>>>>>>> includes newcomers around 60% >>>>>>>>> # Morning Session was scheduled for regular wikipedians, where the >>>>>>>>> attendance was around 20 to 30 regular ml wikians >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>> Rameshng >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:13 PM, Ravishankar <ravidreams(a)gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> > Hi all, >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > The number of registrants found at http://bit.ly/c9voKu is >>>>>>>>> interesting. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Would like to know what percentage of them are regular >>>>>>>>> contributors in >>>>>>>>> > ml.wiki projects. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > One challenge we face in Tamil Wiki is that not many active >>>>>>>>> contributors are >>>>>>>>> > present locally (within Tamilnadu) to conduct offline activities. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > How is the situation for other Indic Wikis? >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > It will be interesting to see a case study from ml.wiki like >>>>>>>>> > http://bit.ly/a3AaCl . Especially, any lesson to learn on >>>>>>>>> outreach and >>>>>>>>> > increasing contributor activity. >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Regards, >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > Ravi >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>>>>> > Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>>> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> 1 GB @ 10 USD per year web hosting. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://milkhost.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> 1 GB @ 10 USD per year web hosting. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://milkhost.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> 1 GB @ 10 USD per year web hosting. >>>> >>>> http://milkhost.com/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >>> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list >> Wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l >> >>

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