All,
As we all know, many of our Indic wikimedia projects have a very small
community and some of them does not even have an administrator around when
in need. I would like to draw your attention to the RfC for Indic
Sysops<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Indic_Sysop>,
a sysop group who could shoulder the additional responsibility of looking
after other Indic language wikis along with their current responsibilities.
I believe that it is a feasible idea, similar to that of a global sysop, as
many of us are multi-lingual within the Indic language group. We do not see
many Global sysops acting on Indic wikis, probably due to the non-latin
nature of the scripts. Perhaps, Indic languages could be the largest group
of languages in the spectrum to coordinate such a pool of hands due to the
above fact. This group's administrative scope is envisioned to include all
Indic wikimedia projects and it can exclude a project if they feel that they
are large enough to handle themselves.
We would like to see a constructive discussion on the pros and cons of this
and explore the possibility of implementing such a group. I wish to see the
day where our small, sleeping wikimedia projects, who does not have anyone
to care for being cared for, and nurtured to bring more hands on to help it
grow.
Thank you all for your time and please take a moment and provide your
thoughts on the RfC Talk page.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Jyothis.
http://www.Jyothis.nethttp://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothishttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jyothis
I am the first customer of http://www.netdotnet.com
woods are lovely dark and deep,
but i have promises to keep and
miles to go before i sleep and
lines to go before I press sleep
completion date = (start date + ((estimated effort x 3.1415926) / resources)
+ ((total coffee breaks x 0.25) / 24)) + Effort in meetings
This is an excellent idea - why not just place the current press kit at
presskit/en and then place the Hindi translation at presskit/hi?
(And likewise for any other translations?)
Hi folks,
I am in touch with a few folks and Wikipedians in Hyderabad for
a Wikimeetup @Hyd. Please* drop me a personal mail *to tinucherian ( at)
gmail ( dot) com , if you are interested, so that I can keep you also in
loop. Date & Venue is still being discussed.
Regards
Tinu Cherian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Hyderabad/Hyderabad1
I didn't think of this coincidence .. Nice find, srikanth ! I guess that is
why you have your id as logic :D
Regards
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan <srik.lak(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Anirudh,
>
> Hyderabad meetup is happening in the morning. 10 a.m on 10/10/10 . Thats
> quite a timing for the first meetup!
>
> --
> Regards
> Srikanth.L
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> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 23:53, Anirudh Bhati <anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tinu,
>>
>> Would it be possible to coordinate the same with Hyderabad
>> Wikimedians? IIRC, their meet up has been scheduled for 10 October
>> 2010 as well.
>>
>> Yours sincerely,
>>
>> Anirudh Singh Bhati
>> B.Com, LL.B. (Hons.), Gujarat National Law University,
>> Gandhinagar, India.
>>
>> Handphone: +919328712208
>> Skype: anirudhsbh
>>
>> If this email were legal advice, it would be followed by a bill.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Kundan Amitabh <kundanamitabh(a)gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi !
>> > Thanks for such a nice idea.
>> > My skype id is kundan.amitabh
>> > I will take a lead for Mumbai.
>> >
>> > On 6 October 2010 15:33, Anirudh Bhati <anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> HI Tinu,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for writing back. I have CC'd Kundan Amitabh of Mumbai on this.
>> >>
>> >> Yours sincerely,
>> >>
>> >> Anirudh Singh Bhati
>> >> B.Com, LL.B. (Hons.), Gujarat National Law University,
>> >> Gandhinagar, India.
>> >>
>> >> Handphone: +919328712208
>> >> Skype: anirudhsbh
>> >>
>> >> If this email were legal advice, it would be followed by a bill.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:16 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
>> >> <tinucherian(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > This is great idea. My skype id is tinucherian.
>> >> >
>> >> > I will take a lead for this Bangalore. Is there anybody from Mumbai
>> who
>> >> > can
>> >> > confirm from their side, Anirudh?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Anirudh Bhati <anirudhsbh(a)gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Bangalore Wikimedians,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Since the monthly Wikimeetup in Bangalore is being organized on 10
>> >> >> October 2010 at 3 PM which is the same time and date as the
>> Wikimeetup
>> >> >> in Mumbai, please consider setting up a Skype video bridge for a
>> >> >> short-term interaction and sharing experience. Good luck!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yours sincerely,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Anirudh Singh Bhati
>> >> >> B.Com, LL.B. (Hons.), Gujarat National Law University,
>> >> >> Gandhinagar, India.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Handphone: +919328712208
>> >> >> Skype: anirudhsbh
>> >> >>
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Creative Commons has just put out a list of people it considers
'superheroes' https://creativecommons.net/superheroes/ - and of the six
people highlighted, one is our very own Gautam John, an initiator of the
Wikimedia India chapter. Congrats, and let's hope some of that superhero
super-dust falls on us too. Cheers,
Achal
Dear Wikimedians ,
Thank you all for the overwhelming response to the 2010 Sept 18th Pune Wikimedia meetup. 17 people had attended this meet. Special thanks to HOD & staff of Women’s Studies Centre, University of Pune and visiting media and open source movement fraternity for their active participation and guidance.
Mr Vijay Sirdeshpande (Mahitgar from Marathi wikipedia) and Ms Bishakha Datta (trustee, Wikimedia Foundation) jointly chaired the meet . Ms. Datta introduced herself . She talked about Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Foundation’s plans in India, the Wikimedia India Chapter, and difficulties faced in completion of its registration process. She also talked about Bangalore wiki meet-ups. She stressed the need to conduct wikipedia academies and informed about the upcoming visits of Jimmy Wales to Mumbai at the end of October. Other Wikimedia Foundation staff visit India in December, includes Sue Gardner (executive director), Erik Moeller (deputy director) and Danese Cooper (chief technical officer).
Then wikipedians introduced themselves. Mr. Amit Yadav raised the topics of need for and lack of adequate references on Marathi wikipedia, quality of content, and outreach. He was for most of the discussions to take place online rather than offline. He stressed the need for initiative and self-learning process for making contributions on part of wiki-admiring people.On quality of content front, the success of Malayalam wikipedia was discussed. Mr. Vijay explained the difference in the initial focus, and said that now the focus is on making Marathi wikipedia reader-oriented. Everyone agreed that for bringing better quality we need more active users. Mr.Vijay also informed that Marathi wikipedians can request for various features and get various features adopted in the user interface, including page rating etc. for improvement in quality.
Mr.Amit Yadav suggested that Marathi Wikipedians wherever necessary can refer to English language wikipedia but need to do more original writing than merely translating from English wikipedia and Good number of attendees supported this idea. One atendee asked whether it is right to give references of Marathi language sources apart from the English language references.
Mr. Amit was of the opinion that those people who use old technologies for writing can share their documentation online and rest of the people can support them in uni-coding the texts for wikiprojects, whereas opinion of Mr Ajay Garg was that we can support these people technologically and we need to do so. Mr.Sudhanwa Joglekar was of the opinion that it is important to involve senior citizens. Mr.Vijay informed that we do have already good support and contribution from working professional and senior citizens categories; but academic and student categories,women and economically weaker and rural sections are under-represented in contributing and interaction with wiki projects.
On media support, Mr. Samrat Phadnis (esakal.com) and Mr. Nilesh Bane (indiatimes.com) assured support from their respective media houses. At the same time, Mr. Nilesh said that wikipedia in itself is the biggest medium. On this, Mr.Vijay stressed the need of diverting en wiki traffic using geo-location and asking for mother tongue while logging in and diverting users to their respective mother tongue wikipedias.Secondly Mr. Vijay also requested for a call center facility if possible from the foundation side (to help contributors all over India instantly).Meeting also discussed importance of inter-wikilinks in spreading awareness among English language Wikipedia’s Indian visitors aware of Marathi language Wikipedia.
Mr.Sudhanwa and Vijay highlighted that Pune would be a good location for the Foundation’s proposed India office, since it is a major educational hub.
Mr.Nilesh Bane took up the subject of Marathi language used on Marathi wikipedia - he felt it should avoid usage of new difficult Marathi words, and highlighted the importance of usability and simplicity in the user interface. Mr.Sachin Venga seconded Mr.Nilesh on his points.While agreeing with his points Mr.Samrat Phadnis (from esakal.com) suggested giving preference to the language used by people from rural and small cities, since readers across Maharashtra constitute the major share of Marathi wikipedia’s target audience. Mr.Sudhanwa Joglekar briefed on the process of language terminology standardisation through FUEL (Frequently Used Entities in Localisation) sessions. In this context, the views of Mr.Mahesh Kulkarni of CDAC and Rachna Pradhan of Bhasha Sanchalanalay were brought to notice and the need for previous(Swa.Savarkar time) debates related to Bhasha Shuddhikaran Movement and Balbharti's Dictionary becoming available online were also
discussed.
Mr.Nilesh Bane expressed his dismay over delay in (Govt.) Marathi Wishvakosh becoming available online.
Mr.Ajay Garg promised to support wikipedians on technical and software special font conversion issues while Prof.Subhash Pawar was enthusiastic in supporting usage of Marathi on computers. It was agreed that there is a need to separate co-ordination by interested wikipedians team with promoting volunteers and technical support on font usage.
Mr.Kaustubh Samudra informed the meeting that media wiki software is translated to Marathi and where people deem it fit to change the usage and correction of Marathi, the correction process is very simple and interested people can help themselves. Besides wikipedia, this software as content management system can be used by the Marathi web developer fraternity since localisation of the Media Wiki software is almost complete.
Prof. Shriniwas Hemade shared his experience and the need for public awareness for utility of encyclopedias. He was enthusiastic in sharing his own write-ups with wiki projects and requested for technical support on font conversion front. He said the best benefit of the meeting is to bring together people in need of technical support like Prof Shriniwas and software experts like Mr. Ajay Garg.
On the subject of increasing contributors and contributions, Mr. Amit was of the opinion that involving post-graduate (PG) level students will ensure better quality and reliability of content. Mr. Vijay was of the opinion that wiki volunteers need to reach 10th standard onward students, journalism, law, Marathi language, Engineering, Computer hardware and software, and botany-related students on priority by way of wikimedia academies and PowerPoint presentations. Mr.Amit promised to take active part in updating PPTs while Mr.Ajay Garg promised to share his expertise in making presentations easily available. Mr.Sudhanwa Joglekar brought to notice the difficulty in approach the student community, asking what would motivate students? Mr. Amit said that a percentage of students would get awareness and factual benefits to themselves by using the same. Mr.Samrat Phadnis assured support with eSakal. Prof Shriniwas also assured support in writing article for
Marathi media .
Ms. Bishakha Datta requested support to the Women’s Studies department, University of Pune - they are very interested in contributing to Marathi wikipedia, but need handholding and technical help. Mr. Amit assured his support on this account.
Mr.Omkar Khair, Mr.Gawande, and Mr.Paresh Mhetre expressed their support to Marathi wikipedia.
On the subject of outreach to the people volunteering for presentations at colleges, Prof.Shriniwas Hemade was of the opinion that future meetings should preferably have a pre-decided agenda. Mr. Amit Yadav was of the opinion that future meetings, if any, should have three distinct teams: one for usage on Marathi plus basic training on wiki usage.Mr.Vijay suggested Marathi Usage on comp promotion and new user wiki-edit help, Content and outreach group, Techsavy and higher experience level user guidance group, And language wise group of people for non Marathi if more than 5
Thanks to Ms.Bishakha Datta for supporting in updating this writeup. Looking forward to feed back and openions about points raised during this meeting.
Thanks and Regards
-Mahitgar from Marathi Wikipedia
Hi Mumbai Wikimedians,
Please join the mailing list for Mumbai Wikimedians to help
co-ordinate events and organize meet ups in your city.
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-mum
Yours sincerely,
Anirudh Singh Bhati
B.Com, LL.B. (Hons.), Gujarat National Law University,
Gandhinagar, India.
Handphone: +919328712208
Skype: anirudhsbh
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