" *Should we not have ...Malayalam-based (there is a lot of talk nowadays in having Wikipedia growing in India), etc. captchas ?* "
Looks like Malayalam Wikipedia creating lots of buzz in the global Wikipedia movement :D
- Tinu Cherian
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Teofilo teofilowiki@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Captchas and non-English speakers To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
I've just opened a new account on the Danish Wikipedia.
I was asked to read the following Captcha :
http://da.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciel:Captcha/image&wpCaptch...
I provided the following answer : "shipsneeds" and it was accepted. But I must confess that reading the second "e" and the "d" was difficult for me.
I was anguished, because I feared that if I answered a wrong answer, I would not be given a second chance for some time.
I don't see why both "e"s should have a different look. Because they looked different, I was puzzled during a long time before eventually choosing to type a second "e". The vertical bar of the "d" being extremely short in comparison with that of the "h" and that of the "p", I was wondering if the last character could not be a square looking "o" or a manual script "a".
I had all these difficulties although I am among the advanced readers and speakers of English. I Know that "ee" is an often found character combination in English. I could also recognize the words "ships" and "needs".
What about non-English speakers ?
Should we not have Japanese-based, Malayalam-based (there is a lot of talk nowadays in having Wikipedia growing in India), etc. captchas ?
For the time being, while the captcha is English-based, how about adding a button with "let me try another captcha" for people experiencing a captcha that is very difficult to read ?
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Malayalam captcha is already available to use. But it is not yet integrated with mediawiki software :(
http://mlcaptcha.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_24.html
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mlcaptcha/
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucherian@gmail.comwrote:
" *Should we not have ...Malayalam-based (there is a lot of talk nowadays in having Wikipedia growing in India), etc. captchas ?* "
Looks like Malayalam Wikipedia creating lots of buzz in the global Wikipedia movement :D
- Tinu Cherian
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Teofilo teofilowiki@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Captchas and non-English speakers To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
I've just opened a new account on the Danish Wikipedia.
I was asked to read the following Captcha :
http://da.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciel:Captcha/image&wpCaptch...
I provided the following answer : "shipsneeds" and it was accepted. But I must confess that reading the second "e" and the "d" was difficult for me.
I was anguished, because I feared that if I answered a wrong answer, I would not be given a second chance for some time.
I don't see why both "e"s should have a different look. Because they looked different, I was puzzled during a long time before eventually choosing to type a second "e". The vertical bar of the "d" being extremely short in comparison with that of the "h" and that of the "p", I was wondering if the last character could not be a square looking "o" or a manual script "a".
I had all these difficulties although I am among the advanced readers and speakers of English. I Know that "ee" is an often found character combination in English. I could also recognize the words "ships" and "needs".
What about non-English speakers ?
Should we not have Japanese-based, Malayalam-based (there is a lot of talk nowadays in having Wikipedia growing in India), etc. captchas ?
For the time being, while the captcha is English-based, how about adding a button with "let me try another captcha" for people experiencing a captcha that is very difficult to read ?
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
Yes, i know. My point was why Malayalam in that comment :) Why not Hindi ,Tamil or some other "globally known" Indian languages ...( which are usually associated with India) Looks like whole Wikimedia getting to hear lots about Malayalam Wikipedia in the recent days .. they did this.. they did that .. Good job !
Regards Tinu Cherian
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Anoop anoop.ind@gmail.com wrote:
Malayalam captcha is already available to use. But it is not yet integrated with mediawiki software :(
http://mlcaptcha.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_24.html
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mlcaptcha/
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian@gmail.com
wrote:
" *Should we not have ...Malayalam-based (there is a lot of talk nowadays in having Wikipedia growing in India), etc. captchas ?* "
Looks like Malayalam Wikipedia creating lots of buzz in the global Wikipedia movement :D
- Tinu Cherian
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Teofilo teofilowiki@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Captchas and non-English speakers To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
I've just opened a new account on the Danish Wikipedia.
I was asked to read the following Captcha :
http://da.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciel:Captcha/image&wpCaptch...
I provided the following answer : "shipsneeds" and it was accepted. But I must confess that reading the second "e" and the "d" was difficult for me.
I was anguished, because I feared that if I answered a wrong answer, I would not be given a second chance for some time.
I don't see why both "e"s should have a different look. Because they looked different, I was puzzled during a long time before eventually choosing to type a second "e". The vertical bar of the "d" being extremely short in comparison with that of the "h" and that of the "p", I was wondering if the last character could not be a square looking "o" or a manual script "a".
I had all these difficulties although I am among the advanced readers and speakers of English. I Know that "ee" is an often found character combination in English. I could also recognize the words "ships" and "needs".
What about non-English speakers ?
Should we not have Japanese-based, Malayalam-based (there is a lot of talk nowadays in having Wikipedia growing in India), etc. captchas ?
For the time being, while the captcha is English-based, how about adding a button with "let me try another captcha" for people experiencing a captcha that is very difficult to read ?
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
-- With Regards, Anoop P
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
:-)
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:35 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucherian@gmail.comwrote:
Yes, i know. My point was why Malayalam in that comment :) Why not Hindi ,Tamil or some other "globally known" Indian languages ...( which are usually associated with India) Looks like whole Wikimedia getting to hear lots about Malayalam Wikipedia in the recent days .. they did this.. they did that .. Good job !
Regards Tinu Cherian
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Anoop anoop.ind@gmail.com wrote:
Malayalam captcha is already available to use. But it is not yet integrated with mediawiki software :(
http://mlcaptcha.blogspot.com/2010/02/blog-post_24.html
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mlcaptcha/
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham < tinucherian@gmail.com> wrote:
" *Should we not have ...Malayalam-based (there is a lot of talk nowadays in having Wikipedia growing in India), etc. captchas ?* "
Looks like Malayalam Wikipedia creating lots of buzz in the global Wikipedia movement :D
- Tinu Cherian
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Teofilo teofilowiki@gmail.com Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 9:27 AM Subject: [Wikitech-l] Captchas and non-English speakers To: wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org
I've just opened a new account on the Danish Wikipedia.
I was asked to read the following Captcha :
http://da.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Speciel:Captcha/image&wpCaptch...
I provided the following answer : "shipsneeds" and it was accepted. But I must confess that reading the second "e" and the "d" was difficult for me.
I was anguished, because I feared that if I answered a wrong answer, I would not be given a second chance for some time.
I don't see why both "e"s should have a different look. Because they looked different, I was puzzled during a long time before eventually choosing to type a second "e". The vertical bar of the "d" being extremely short in comparison with that of the "h" and that of the "p", I was wondering if the last character could not be a square looking "o" or a manual script "a".
I had all these difficulties although I am among the advanced readers and speakers of English. I Know that "ee" is an often found character combination in English. I could also recognize the words "ships" and "needs".
What about non-English speakers ?
Should we not have Japanese-based, Malayalam-based (there is a lot of talk nowadays in having Wikipedia growing in India), etc. captchas ?
For the time being, while the captcha is English-based, how about adding a button with "let me try another captcha" for people experiencing a captcha that is very difficult to read ?
Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
-- With Regards, Anoop P
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:35 PM, CherianTinu Abraham <tinucherian@gmail.com mailto:tinucherian@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, i know. My point was why Malayalam in that comment :) Why not Hindi ,Tamil or some other "globally known" Indian languages ...( which are usually associated with India)
I assume just because Teofilo and Malayalam**are active in commons :)
Why can't we file a bug to enable Malayalam Captcha on MediaWiki?
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:25 PM, praveenp me.praveen@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:35 PM, CherianTinu Abraham < tinucherian@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, i know. My point was why Malayalam in that comment :)
Why not Hindi ,Tamil or some other "globally known" Indian languages ...( which are usually associated with India)
I assume just because Teofilo and Malayalam are active in commons :)
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
*I think* it is too early to think towards Malayalam Captcha in wikipedia.
We may better keep it simpler for the new incoming users (particularly wikipedia readers) who may not have a full swing Malayalam typing system in place. Let us not confuse them.
*In my humble opinion,* the english captcha may be still simpler for a beginner user than Malayalam especially because we still have debates about different unicode versions etc.
Realistically, most of our potential Malayalam users are in a position to at least identify the English alphabet. So English captcha is not a major handicap for them. Further, how often we face a captcha screen in wiki*?
*I think*, Our priority should be to attract more and more users (both readers and writers). When we have thousands of them, we can think of additional features like these.
I*n any case, Malayalam being mentioned distinctively in a universal/global discussion is quite motivating! All the more so, we are obliged to work even harder for our dear ml.wiki*.org*
-viswam
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 20:19, Anoop anoop.ind@gmail.com wrote:
Why can't we file a bug to enable Malayalam Captcha on MediaWiki?
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:25 PM, praveenp me.praveen@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:35 PM, CherianTinu Abraham < tinucherian@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, i know. My point was why Malayalam in that comment :)
Why not Hindi ,Tamil or some other "globally known" Indian languages ...( which are usually associated with India)
I assume just because Teofilo and Malayalam are active in commons :)
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
-- With Regards, Anoop P
Wikiml-l is the mailing list for Malayalam Wikimedia Projects email: Wikiml-l@lists.wikimedia.org Website: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiml-l
How is it pronouonsed? Kepsa?
- കാപ്ച ( Captcha- Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart )
On 2/6/11, Challiyan challiyan@gmail.com wrote:
How is it pronouonsed? Kepsa?
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