เด เดชเตเดฐเดงเดพเดจเดชเตเดชเตเดเตเด เดธเดจเตเดฆเตเดถเด เดเดคเตเดตเดฐเต เดเดพเดฃเดพเดคเตเดคเดตเตผ เดเดฃเตเดเตเดเตเดเดฟเตฝ เดฆเดฏเดตเดพเดฏเดฟ เดถเตเดฐเดฆเตเดงเดฟเดเตเดเตเด.
เดฎเดฒเดฏเดพเดณเด เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟเดธเดฎเตเดนเดคเตเดคเดฟเตฝ เดจเดฟเดจเตเดจเตเด เดจเดฎเตเดฎเดณเตเด เดจเดพเดฒเต เด เดเตเดเต เดชเตเดฐเดคเดฟเดจเดฟเดงเดฟเดเดณเต
เดคเตเดฐเดเตเดเตเดเตเดเตเดเตเดฃเตเดเดคเดพเดฃเตเต. เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟเดชเตเดกเดฟเดฏ เดชเดเตเดเดพเดฏเดคเตเดคเดฟเตฝเดคเดจเตเดจเต เดเตผเดเตเด เดเตเดฏเตเดคเตเต
(เดเดตเดถเตเดฏเดฎเตเดเตเดเดฟเตฝ เดตเตเดเตเดเตเดเตเดชเตเดชเตเดเต) เดชเตเดฐเดคเดฟเดจเดฟเดงเดฟเดเดณเต เดคเตเดฐเตเดฎเดพเดจเดฟเดเตเดเตเดจเตเดจเดคเดพเดฏเดฟเดฐเดฟเดเตเดเตเด
เดเดฑเตเดฑเดตเตเด เดถเดฐเดฟ.
(เดคเตฝเดเตเดเดพเดฒเด เดเดพเตป เดธเตเดตเดจเตเดคเด เด เดญเดฟเดชเตเดฐเดพเดฏเดชเตเดฐเดเดพเดฐเด เดเตเดฑเดเตเดเตเดชเตเดฐเต เดจเตเดฎเดฟเดจเตเดฑเตเดฑเต
เดเตเดฏเตเดคเดฟเดเตเดเตเดฃเตเดเตเต.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014
เดชเดเตเดทเต, เดชเตเดคเตเดตเดพเดฏ เดเดฎเตเดฏเตเดฃเดฟเดฑเตเดฑเดฟ เด เดญเดฟเดชเตเดฐเดพเดฏเดฎเดพเดฃเต เดตเตเดฃเตเดเดคเตเต. เด เดคเดฟเดจเดพเตฝ เด เดเตเดเดจเต
เดคเตเดฐเดเตเดเตเดเตเดเตเดเตเดจเตเดจเดตเตผ เดคเดจเตเดจเตเดฏเดพเดฃเตเต เดจเดฎเตเดฎเตเดเต เดชเตเดฐเดคเดฟเดจเดฟเดงเดฟเดเดณเดพเดตเตเดฃเตเดเดคเตเต.)
เดเดจเตเดคเตเดฏเดฏเดฟเดฒเต เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟเดธเดฎเตเดนเดคเตเดคเดฟเดจเต เดชเตเดคเตเดตเตเดฏเตเด เด เดคเตเดเตเดชเตเดชเด เดคเดจเตเดจเต เดฎเดฒเดฏเดพเดณเด
เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟเดธเดฎเตเดนเดคเตเดคเดฟเดจเตเด เดญเดพเดตเดฟเดชเดฐเดฟเดชเดพเดเดฟเดเตพ เดเตเดเตเดคเตฝ เดซเดฒเดชเตเดฐเดฆเดฎเดพเดฏเดฟ เดเดธเตเดคเตเดฐเดฃเด เดเตเดฏเตเดฏเตเดจเตเดจเดคเดฟเตฝ เด
เดเตผเดเตเดเดฏเดฟเตฝ เด เดคเดฟเดชเตเดฐเดงเดพเดจเดฎเดพเดฏ เดชเดเตเดเตเดฃเตเดเตเดจเตเดจเต เดฎเดจเดธเตเดธเดฟเดฒเดพเดเตเดเตเดฎเดฒเตเดฒเต.
เดฌเดพเดเดเดณเตเดฐเต เดฎเตเดเดฌเดพเดฏเดฟเดฒเต เดตเตเดเตเดเดพเดฏเดฟเดฐเดฟเดเตเดเตเด เดฐเดฃเตเดเต เดฆเดฟเดตเดธเดคเตเดคเต เด เดชเดฐเดฟเดชเดพเดเดฟ เดจเดเดเตเดเตเด.
เดคเตเดฐเดเตเดเตเดเตเดเตเดเดชเตเดชเตเดเตเด เดชเตเดฐเดคเดฟเดจเดฟเดงเดฟเดเดณเตเดเต เดฏเดพเดคเตเดฐ, เดคเดพเดฎเดธเด, เดญเดเตเดทเดฃเด เดคเตเดเดเตเดเดฟเดฏ
เดเตเดฒเดตเตเดเดณเตเดฒเตเดฒเดพเด เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟเดฎเตเดกเดฟเดฏ เดซเตเดฃเตเดเตเดทเตป เดตเดนเดฟเดเตเดเตเด.
-เดตเดฟเดถเตเดตเด
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
Date: Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IMPORTANT: Future of work in India -- a
community consultation in Bangalore
To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
We have confirmed the dates of the consultation: *October 4th and 5th*
(weekend).
If you haven't do so yet, please do give some thought to the *Delegates*
and *Venue* sections of the organization page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014
I hope some community conversations about delegates are taking place. As I
said 5 days ago, we'd rather have communities nominate delegates, than to
have to select people ourselves.
For communities that do not come up with community nominations, we will be
selecting people on the basis of proxy measures such as levels of
engagement on wiki, on lists, and good standing (not banned etc.), but this
may well not be the optimal delegates from the community's standpoint.
Asaf
On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 10:33 PM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Hello again, everyone.
> (I would appreciate forwarding/translation, again)
>
> I hope discussions are underway about nominating delegates for this
> meeting, as we will need to begin arranging logistics in a couple of weeks.
>
> In the meantime, one of you anonymously offered comments on the talk page,
> and I have now addressed them, here:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:India_Community_Consultation_2014
>
> I'm particularly calling out to your attention that the meeting is *not*
> expected to *set* the future of work in India, or to bind communities
> into accepting whatever is agreed upon at the meeting. On the contrary, it
> is a *joint visioning* and strategizing meeting, whose final output,
> ideally, would be a roadmap, a set of proposals, and a shared understanding
> of different possible roles of organizations and informal structures in
> India, all of which would be *offered* back, on-wiki, to the communities
> to discuss and develop further, or not.
>
> Some communities may embrace some of the ideas, others may object or just
> choose not to adopt them for now, and others still may struggle to even
> have that kind of conversation. All of these outcomes are valid, and we
> are decidedly not looking for (another) one-size-fits-all strategy for all
> of India.
>
> Please do visit the page and help us decide the venue and begin building
> the participant list. We would much rather have communities nominate, as
> well as individuals self-nominate, to participate, than having to select
> whom to invite ourselves (though of course we would do that to ensure
> minimal representation, if we need to).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Asaf
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear fellow Wikimedians,
>>
>> (this is important and a rare opportunity -- please do take a few moments
>> to read.)
>>
>> I would like to draw your attention to a major piece of news:
>>
>> The Wikimedia Foundation is convening a community consultation on the
>> future of Wikimedia work in India, to be held in October in Bangalore, with
>> significant representation from across India, the different projects, and
>> the different language communities.
>>
>> Please see the following page on Meta for details, context, and to begin
>> discussion the delegates you would like to see participating. All costs
>> will be borne by the Foundation.
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Community_Consultation_2014
>>
>> Let's try and keep discussion on the talk page of that page on Meta, so
>> everyone can follow, even people not on this list.
>>
>> Also, your help in forward this widely, translating as necessary, etc.,
>> would be MUCH appreciated. Again, this is an important opportunity, and we
>> need to ensure we get every community's attention.
>>
>> I look forward to this conversation very much!
>>
>> Asaf
>>
>> --
>> Asaf Bartov
>> Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>
>>
>> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
>> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
>> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Asaf Bartov
> Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
> https://donate.wikimedia.org
>
--
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The below mail FYI. Hope to see active participation from the Malayalam
Wikimedia community. This is a good opportunity for all of us to come up
with a shared vision for the Wikimedia movement's growth in India.
Best,
Vishnu
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [Wikimediaindia-l] IMPORTANT: Future of work in India -- a
community consultation in Bangalore
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:50:36 -0700
From: Asaf Bartov <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
Reply-To: Wikimedia India Community list
<wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Dear fellow Wikimedians,
(this is important and a rare opportunity -- please do take a few
moments to read.)
I would like to draw your attention to a major piece of news:
The Wikimedia Foundation is convening a community consultation on the
future of Wikimedia work in India, to be held in October in Bangalore,
with significant representation from across India, the different
projects, and the different language communities.
Please see the following page on Meta for details, context, and to begin
discussion the delegates you would like to see participating. All costs
will be borne by the Foundation.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Community_Consultation_2014
Let's try and keep discussion on the talk page of that page on Meta, so
everyone can follow, even people not on this list.
Also, your help in forward this widely, translating as necessary, etc.,
would be MUCH appreciated. Again, this is an important opportunity, and
we need to ensure we get every community's attention.
I look forward to this conversation very much!
Asaf
--
Asaf Bartov
Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org>
Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share
in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality!
https://donate.wikimedia.org
เดธเตเดตเดจเตเดคเด เดจเดพเดเตเดเดฟเตฝ เดเดฐเต เดชเดฐเดฟเดชเดพเดเดฟ , เดตเดฐเดฃเด เดเดจเตเดจเต เด เดคเดฟเดฏเดพเดฏ เดเดเตเดฐเดนเด เดเดฃเตเดเต , เด เดตเดงเดฟ เดจเดตเดเดฌเดฐเตโ
เด เดตเดธเดพเดจเด เดเดฃเต เดคเตเดเดเตเดเตเดจเตเดจเดคเต เด เดคเต เดเดพเดฐเดฃเด เดเดฐเต เดฐเดเตเดทเดฏเตเด เดเดฒเตเดฒ. เดเดฒเตเดฒเดพเด เดญเดเดเดฟเดฏเดพเดฏเดฟ
เดตเดฐเดเตเดเต.
เดเตผเดตเดฟเตป เดเดพเดฒเดฟเดเตเดเดฑเตเดฑเตโ
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> 1. เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟ เดชเด เดจ เดถเดฟเดฌเดฟเดฐเด (kannan shanmugam)
> 2. Re: เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟ เดชเด เดจ เดถเดฟเดฌเดฟเดฐเด
> (sugeesh | เดธเตเดเตเดทเต *)
> 3. Re: เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟ เดชเด เดจ เดถเดฟเดฌเดฟเดฐเด (Hrishi)
> 4. Statement on CIS-A2K's FDC Proposal (Vishnu)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: kannan shanmugam <fotographerkannan(a)gmail.com>
> To: Malayalam Wikimedia Project Mailing list <wikiml-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> >
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 12:09:16 +0530
> Subject: [Wikiml-l] เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟ เดชเด เดจ เดถเดฟเดฌเดฟเดฐเด
>
> เดธเตเดนเตเดคเตเดคเตเดเตเดเดณเต,
> เดเตเดดเดฟเดเตเดเตเดเต เดเดตเดฃเตโเดฎเตเดจเตเดฑเต เดตเตเดเตเดเตเดทเดฃเดฒเตโ เดนเดฏเดฐเตโ เดธเตเดเตเดเดฃเตเดเดฑเดฟ เดธเตเดเตเดณเตโ เดซเตเดฐเตโ เดเตเดณเตโเดธเต
> เดจเดเดเตเดเดพเดตเต
> <https://ml.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B4%97%E0%B4%B5%E0%B5%BA%E0%B4%AE%E0%B5%86โฆ>
>
> เดตเดเตเดเต เดเตเดเตเดเดฟเดเดณเตโเดเตเดเดพเดฏเดฟ เดเดฐเต เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟ เดชเด เดจ เดถเดฟเดฌเดฟเดฐเดคเตเดคเดฟเดจเต เดธเดพเดงเตเดฏเดค เดตเดจเตเดจเดฟเดเตเดเตเดฃเตเดเต.
> ?เดเตเดดเดฟเดเตเดเตเดเต เดชเดฐเดฟเดธเดฐเดคเตเดคเต เดเดณเตเดณ เดธเตเดนเตเดคเตเดคเตเดเตเดเดณเดพเดฐเตเดเตเดเตเดฏเดพเดฃเตเดณเตเดณเดคเต. เดเตเดดเดฟเดเตเดเตเดเต
> เด.เดฑเตเดฑเดฟ เดธเตเดเตเดณเดฟเดฒเต เดธเตเดนเตเดคเตเดคเตเดเตเดเดณเตเดฃเตเดเดพเดเตเด. เดธเตเดชเตเดฑเตเดฑเดเดฌเดฑเดฟเดฒเตโ เดเดฃเดพเดตเดงเดฟ เดเดดเดฟเดเตเดเต
> เดจเดเดคเตเดคเตเดจเตเดจเดคเดพเดเตเด เดธเตเดเดฐเตเดฏเด. เดเดฐเตเดเตเดเตเดฏเตเดฃเตเดเต?
> GVHS SCHOOL NADAKKAVE, KOZHIKODE
> <https://www.facebook.com/apradeepkumar.mla/media_set?set=a.1385703588354221โฆ>
>
> เดเดฃเตเดฃเดจเตโ
>
> เดธเดฐเตโเดเตเดเดพเดฐเตโ เดชเดณเตเดณเดฟเดเตเดเตเดเด เดเดฃเตเดเตเดเตเดเดพ.....
>
> เดเดฃเตเดเดฟเดเตเดเดฟเดฒเตเดฒเต เดฌเดพ
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "sugeesh | เดธเตเดเตเดทเต *" <sajsugeesh(a)gmail.com>
> To: Malayalam Wikimedia Project Mailing list <wikiml-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> >
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 23:48:52 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Wikiml-l] เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟ เดชเด เดจ เดถเดฟเดฌเดฟเดฐเด
> เดเดพเดจเตเด ...
>
> --
> * * Sugeesh | เดธเตเดเตเดทเต
> Gujarat | เดคเดฟเดฐเตเดตเดจเดจเตเดคเดชเตเดฐเด
> 7818885929 | 9539685727
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Hrishi <hrishi.kb(a)gmail.com>
> To: Malayalam Wikimedia Project Mailing list <wikiml-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> >
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 14:05:01 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Wikiml-l] เดตเดฟเดเตเดเดฟ เดชเด เดจ เดถเดฟเดฌเดฟเดฐเด
> เดเดพเดจเตเดฃเตเดเต :)
>
>
> On 14 August 2014 12:18, sugeesh | เดธเตเดเตเดทเต * <sajsugeesh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> เดเดพเดจเตเด ...
>>
>> --
>> * * Sugeesh | เดธเตเดเตเดทเต
>> Gujarat | เดคเดฟเดฐเตเดตเดจเดจเตเดคเดชเตเดฐเด
>> 7818885929 | 9539685727
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Vishnu <visdaviva(a)gmail.com>
> To: wikiml-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Cc:
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:30:04 +0530
> Subject: [Wikiml-l] Statement on CIS-A2K's FDC Proposal
>
> Dear Wikimedians, WMIN EC, FDC Members, FDC Staff and the WMF Board:
>
> *sorry for X posting and for the long e-mail*
>
> This statement is in response to the CIS-A2K's FDC proposal discussions
> during the months of April to June 2014. For those of you who would like to
> know the context please see the discussion pages on meta here [1] & [2].
> Apologies for putting out this statement at least a couple of weeks late.
>
> It was in September 2012 that CIS was given an opportunity and a
> responsibility to serve and grow the Wikimedia movement in India through
> our Access to Knowledge (A2K) program. As many of you know we have left no
> stone unturned in doing our best to growing the free culture/open knowledge
> movement in India and in Indian languages. CIS is grateful to the Wikimedia
> movement from which we have learned immensely as an organization. We are
> yet again grateful to all you for reposing the trust and responsibility yet
> again in the A2K program with the FDC Grant [3]. Even more so as our FDC
> application went through a rigorous community feedback.
>
> Some interesting stats on the CIS-A2K FDC proposal: the entire discussion
> ran into approximately 75,000 words. Of this CIS-A2K's responses consisted
> about 28,000 words and 47,000 words were by the community members, WMIN EC
> members, FDC staff and FDC members. This is probably the longest discussion
> on any of the FDC proposals so far. 25 Wikimedians (of this about 8 are
> โnew users who have not edited sinceโ); 4 out of 7 WMIN EC members; 4 FDC
> members; 4 FDC/WMF staff; and 1 WMF Board member took part in the CIS-A2K
> FDC proposal discussion.
>
> On a candid note, some of the community engagement during the FDC process
> was painful like walking on fire, but we are glad that we have gone through
> this process. We thank each and everyone who has engaged with our A2K work
> and the program proposals that we have put forth for the next year. We have
> learnt some useful lessons and assure you that we will continue to improve
> upon our programmatic efficiency, efficacy, accountability and transparency.
>
> We would also like to take this opportunity to reflect on some of the
> critical points of feedback that we received from all of you and outline
> the steps that we have taken or plan to take.
>
> 1) The Grant proposed is too high within the local context. Especially
> Salaries and the Administrative costs were considered to be high. (This was
> echoed by many Wikimedians - Ravi, Dhaval, Hari & Pradeep; WMIN EC members
> Karthik & Pranav; FDC Staff and FDC members. Some specifically suggested
> that we consider revising the salaries at least to bring them on par with
> the existing salaries within CIS.)
>
> We have taken the community's feedback to CIS Board and our Board
> concurred with the community's feedback and suggested that we take
> appropriate measures to bring in some sort of parity in salaries for the
> A2K team, and noted that this will be better in the long run. Accordingly
> we have revised the CIS-A2K team salaries taking into consideration the
> following factors a) feedback from the Community and FDC; b) performance of
> the team member during the last one year (i.e. until March 2014); and c)
> scope of work for the coming year based on the draft work plans. **We
> would like to inform that the total revised staff salary budget is less
> than 35% from what was proposed to the FDC.** The average monthly salary
> of the A2K team under the FDC grant will be about Rs. 73,000/- per month.
> Further CIS will also raise some portion of the salary. Please see here [4]
> for the revised salary structure for the CIS-A2K team which is effective
> from July 1, 2014. We have also reduced some of the costs against Team
> travel across the plans. This and the other changes to the budget will soon
> be shared with the community.
>
> 2) Ambitious scaling up of the language specific strategy that CIS-A2K has
> adopted and the sustainability of the growth. Also the number of proposed
> plans is too ambitious. (FDC members, Staff along with Ravi and Blue
> Rasberry).
>
> We have taken this feedback into consideration and decided to limit the
> language specific plans to 5 (4 existing and 1 new), and will suspend 2
> language area plans . Since we started to actively work with the Wikimedia
> movement (from Sept. 2012), sustainable and qualitative growth of Indic
> Wikimedia projects has been one of our core concerns. We have already
> stated the measures that we will proposed to take up towards sustainability
> of the various initiatives in our response to the questions raised on Meta
> during the FDC proposal process. We look forward to seeking more ideas from
> the community on this aspect as we continue to work with them through the
> next 12 months. CIS-A2K will also cut down some of the proposed stand-alone
> projects. Based on the community's feedback we will soon share revised
> plans that will guide our work for the next one year.
>
> 3) Focus on policy, advocacy and content donation and acquisition. (FDC
> members and Pradeep.)
>
> CIS-A2K program will more pro-actively look at various possibilities of
> influencing policy in creating an enabling environment for open knowledge
> and Wikimedia movement in India. We have already put in efforts to create
> policy level changes in each of the language area and some of them may
> fructify soon. However, it is important to note that any kind of policy
> work is difficult to quantify to visibly demonstrate the impact and to
> appropriately claim attribution of success. We will also put more effort in
> bringing Indic content in the open. We are incorporating this suggestion in
> revising the plans.
>
> 4) Independent community review of the work done by CIS-A2K. (Ravi and
> Pradeep)
>
> We see the importance of this suggestion. As stated here <link> CIS-A2K
> did propose for a Community led review in our last year's plans. However,
> this could not materialize for various reasons. We have internally
> discussed on how best we could ensure that this is done. In the coming
> weeks we will share some ideas for the community's feedback on how we could
> collectively create a structure that will independently and periodically
> review the work done by CIS-A2K and other movement entities. We will use
> this learning in the next one year.
>
> 5) Community involvement in the programs and activities catalyzed by
> CIS-A2K. (Ravi, Hari, Pradeep, some from WMIN EC, FDC members and staff)
>
> We disagree with this aspect of the feedback, especially with regard to
> the four language areas (Kannada, Konkani, Odia and Telugu). CIS-A2K was
> privileged to have the active involvement of these language communities and
> the proposed plans for July 2014 to June 2015 were discussed with the
> respective language community across various channels. We believe that
> there is a silent majority across these language communities and also in
> other language communities that actively engages with CIS-A2K and our work.
> However, we do recognize the importance of appropriately capturing the
> community mandate to CIS-A2K publicly (especially on wiki). We are
> exploring various means of capturing the community's involvement. We also
> believe it is important for the FDC, WMF and Wikimedia movement in India to
> find ways of listening to this silent majority of the community members who
> otherwise choose not to be very vocal on the mailings lits and Meta.
>
> 6) Impact of the language specific strategy. (Pradeep, Hari, Ravi,
> Ansuman, Dhaval, Shyamal, some from WMIN EC and FDC members)
>
> CIS-A2K believes that it's language specific strategy, has been effective
> in growing the respective Wikimedia projects. We have already brought in a
> significant traction to each of the four language area projects and
> associated communities. Though it is too early to assert (as we rolled-out
> plans based on this strategy a year ago in June 2013) we believe that our
> language specific strategy is already yielding productive results. Other
> than the โindependent community reviewโ we will explore even more robust
> methodology/ies to demonstrate the impact of the language strategy.
> However, we welcome continuous feedback from the community which help us to
> learn and progress collectively. The community feedback if it is of
> formative in nature than summative would be a significant value add for us
> to make swift changes.
>
> 7) Natural/Organic v. Artificial/Inorganic growth of Indian language
> Wikipedias. (Ravi, Pradeep & FDC members)
>
> CIS-A2K does not see the bright line that is being drawn about organic v.
> inorganic growth within the context of Wikimedia movement (in India). There
> are many nuances to this debate and it is not productive to pitch these as
> mutually exclusive approaches. Further, our experience taught us that what
> is organic (to be done by volunteers) and what is inorganic (could be
> supported by paid professionals) changes from a language community to
> language community and their context. There is no one model. We believe it
> is important to respect this diversity across language communities in
> India. For instance, some language communities (given their current
> context) feel that Wikipedia Outreach should be supported by paid
> professionals whereas some think it should be done by volunteers. While we
> appreciate the broader philosophy that define each of these approaches, we
> have been putting every effort to bring the best of both of these
> approaches in our work. We strongly believe that there is an immense amount
> of learning for all of us as a movement, if we could collectively explore
> how to best utilize volunteers and voluntary sector professional energies
> than to pitch them as mutually exclusive. At the end of the day we all are
> driven by the same collective vision of growing open knowledge.
>
> We will soon share the revised plans and budget for the next year and look
> forward to your continuous engagement in our collective dream of further
> growing the Wikimedia and open knowledge movement in India.
>
> Best wishes,
> Vishnu
> CIS-A2K
> Note: This is being put up on Meta here [1]
>
> [1]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/โฆ
> [2]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:APG/Proposals/2013-2014_round2/โฆ
> [3]
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Board_decisions/2013-2014_round2
> [4] http://bit.ly/1sY6XQU
>
>
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