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Andy Mabbett

7 Jun 2017 7 Jun '17

3:50 p.m.

I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of out-of-copyright works). Do any spring to mind? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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Sam Walton

7 Jun 7 Jun

3:54 p.m.

(In my capacity as a volunteer) I spoke to the University of Liverpool Library/Archives and they were happy to release some images taken by the university photographer of the Liverpool Overhead Railway under a CC license. Unfortunately their OTRS email wasn't quite specific enough so the images were deleted and I never managed to get them to send another email :( Sam On 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of out-of-copyright works). Do any spring to mind? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- Sam Walton Partnerships Coordinator The Wikipedia Library sam(a)wikipedialibrary.org / swalton(a)wikimedia.org

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Lucy Crompton-Reid

3:59 p.m.

What a shame Sam! I think Martin Poulter in particular would be a good person to respond to on this, as might Ewan McAndrew. Cheers Lucy On 7 June 2017 at 16:54, Sam Walton <swalton(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

(In my capacity as a volunteer) I spoke to the University of Liverpool Library/Archives and they were happy to release some images taken by the university photographer of the Liverpool Overhead Railway under a CC license. Unfortunately their OTRS email wasn't quite specific enough so the images were deleted and I never managed to get them to send another email :( Sam On 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of out-of-copyright works). Do any spring to mind? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- Sam Walton Partnerships Coordinator The Wikipedia Library sam(a)wikipedialibrary.org / swalton(a)wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

-- Lucy Crompton-Reid Chief Executive Wikimedia UK +44 (0) 207 065 0991 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.*

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leutha＠fabiant.eu

14 Jun 14 Jun

4:05 p.m.

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Rex X

6:32 p.m.

We should encourage more experienced editors to volunteer for OTRS. It's one of those systems where it's often easy to sort out if you can actually speak to somebody who can deal with it. It's not what you know ... -- Rexx

On 14 June 2017 at 17:05 leutha(a)fabiant.eu wrote: Hi all, This reflects my experience with OTRS. I actually sent the exact wording to Chris Knight, so that was not the problem. Nothing happened for 6 weeks until I met someone on OTRS who very kindly did the job in about five minutes. How do we fix this? all the best, Fabian aka Leutha

On 07 June 2017 at 16:54 Sam Walton <swalton(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: (In my capacity as a volunteer) I spoke to the University of Liverpool Library/Archives and they were happy to release some images taken by the university photographer of the Liverpool Overhead Railway under a CC license. Unfortunately their OTRS email wasn't quite specific enough so the images were deleted and I never managed to get them to send another email :( Sam On 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of out-of-copyright works). Do any spring to mind? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >

-- Sam Walton Partnerships Coordinator The Wikipedia Library sam(a)wikipedialibrary.org / swalton(a)wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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Andy Mabbett

7:21 p.m.

On 14 June 2017 at 19:32, Rex X <rexx(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

We should encourage more experienced editors to volunteer for OTRS.

We need to deal with the problems with OTRS first; I raised them (not for the first time) here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikimedia_Forum&oldid=1663… and the section was archived with no further posts to those in the above version, despite the promise, made here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Matthewrbowker&old… of a reply; and apparently nothing done to remedy them. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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geni

15 Jun 15 Jun

11:56 a.m.

On 14 June 2017 at 17:05, <leutha(a)fabiant.eu> wrote:

Hi all, This reflects my experience with OTRS. I actually sent the exact wording to Chris Knight, so that was not the problem. Nothing happened for 6 weeks until I met someone on OTRS who very kindly did the job in about five minutes. How do we fix this?

With difficultly. There are currently 447 open emails in permissions-commons and 1219 in permissions in general and they are all very boring. At the same time the bits of info-en that I have access to have 611 open emails which tend to be slightly more interesting (although a lot of politics and notability). 447 at 5 minutes a time also amounts to ~37 hours work. Realistically we may have to accept that permissions isn't really something you can get volunteers to do on a large enough scale. Which either means trying to get the WMF to do it or seeing if one of the people we pay at WMUK has time to do it for UK based projects (obviously this is slightly dependent on what the legal bods say). -- geni

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Richard Nevell

7 Jun 7 Jun

4:01 p.m.

The University of Exeter's Flickr stream used to have some CC images (most events from what I remember), but it looks like the licence has been changed. On 7 June 2017 at 16:50, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of out-of-copyright works). Do any spring to mind? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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Deryck Chan

4:34 p.m.

Cambridge University publishes most of their online content as CC-By-NC-ND. Well it's CC but whether it should be considered "open" is another debate. I believe the choice of NC-ND is down to older academics' wish to pre-empt the debate on moral rights of derivative works by forbidding derivation under open copyright. Deryck On 7 Jun 2017 4:51 pm, "Andy Mabbett" <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of out-of-copyright works). Do any spring to mind? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

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CAMPBELL Lorna

9 Jun 9 Jun

noon

The University of Edinburgh releases a lot of media material under open licence. Here’s a few sources, Ewan may be able to suggest more. Open.Ed open licenses educational resources including images, video and 3d models http://open.ed.ac.uk/about/ Centre for Research Collections on Flickr https://www.flickr.com/photos/crcedinburgh/ UoE Image Collections http://images.is.ed.ac.uk/ MediaHopper Creative Commons https://media.ed.ac.uk/category/Creative+Commons/ <https://media.ed.ac.uk/category/Creative+Commons/> Resources are released under a range of open licences, but there’s quite a lot of CC BY stuff there. Cheers, Lorna On 7 Jun 2017, at 17:34, Deryck Chan <deryckchan@gmail.com<mailto:deryckchan@gmail.com>> wrote: Cambridge University publishes most of their online content as CC-By-NC-ND. Well it's CC but whether it should be considered "open" is another debate. I believe the choice of NC-ND is down to older academics' wish to pre-empt the debate on moral rights of derivative works by forbidding derivation under open copyright. Deryck On 7 Jun 2017 4:51 pm, "Andy Mabbett" <andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk<mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk>> wrote: I've been asked to provide examples of UK universities releasing media under open licence (as opposed to giving us their images of out-of-copyright works). Do any spring to mind? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk<http://pigsonthewing.org.uk/> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org<mailto:wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk<https://wikimedia.org.uk/> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org<mailto:wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk — Lorna M. Campbell OER Liaison - Open Scotland, LTW University of Edinburgh Mail: lorna.m.campbell@ed.ac.uk<mailto:lorna.m.campbell@ed.ac.uk> / lorna.m.campbell@icloud.com<mailto:lorna.m.campbell@icloud.com> Twitter: @lornamcampbell Blog: https://lornamcampbell.wordpress.com/ Skype: lorna120768 The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.

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Andy Mabbett

4:28 p.m.

On 9 June 2017 at 13:00, CAMPBELL Lorna <lorna.m.campbell(a)ed.ac.uk> wrote:

The University of Edinburgh releases a lot of media material under open licence. Here’s a few sources

Thank you. That's a very commendable action on behalf of the university, and a very helpful example. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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