That's odd. I thought it was remarkably light of any business that couldn't be dealt with by reading. https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/2015_Annual_General_Meeting I don't need to travel to London to have somebody read "Report by XYZ" to me. YMMV. -- Rexx On 19 June 2015 at 17:27, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:

me. YMMV. There is of course the volunteer strategy day prior to the AGM. And there will be elections to the Board. Both are important ways to influence the direction of the charity for the future! Chris

Hi Doug The AGM necessarily has to report to the members on a number of formal company matters, and we want to keep it reasonably short and focused to allow the maximum time for the volunteer strategy part of the day that precedes it. I certainly hope people will want to stay for the AGM – it’s an important part of being a member. The elections and the discussion of reports later on will provide some time for member feedback, but as a formal company meeting the AGM will always be a less ideal forum for wide-ranging discussion than our primary open channels, namely our wiki and the mailing list. By the way, it’s also always (or almost always?) been the case that the AGM is held alongside another volunteer-based event, and as I understand it that event has always provided the bulk of the discussion and presentation time. For the VSD the aim is very much to do as little “presenting” as possible, with as much discussion as we can get. Best Simon From: wikimediauk-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of rexx Sent: 19 June 2015 22:09 To: UK Wikimedia mailing list Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Deadline for Members' Resolutions The Volunteer Strategy Day is already overdue by several months. I hope that nobody is assuming that having the VSD just before the AGM excuses the AGM from trying to involve volunteers as much as possible? 'Elections to the Board' is indeed an important aspect of the AGM agenda, but postal voting means that members aren't going to turn up just for that item. I'd much rather members turned up for the AGM because they found something of interest per se, rather than just hanging on because they've been to the VSD. -- Rexx On 19 June 2015 at 21:48, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: There is of course the volunteer strategy day prior to the AGM. And there will be elections to the Board. Both are important ways to influence the direction of the charity for the future! Chris _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk

On 19/06/15 22:10, Michael Peel wrote: We would hope so. I am not standing. Gordo

On 20 June 2015 at 16:41, Katie Chan <ktc(a)ktchan.info> wrote: The deadline for members' resolutions expires *before* they are formally notified of the event? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

On 20/06/2015 23:20, Andy Mabbett wrote: Well, you can't give a formal notice of a general meeting containing the resolutions to be considered if you don't know what the resolutions are yet. Having said that, the planning timeline did contain: "12 June - Warning notice transmitted by email - Include deadline for resolutions", which is apparently {{done}}, except the "include deadline for resolutions" has since disappeared from the table. I am assuming Stuart's email [1] to this list (rather than explicitly to all members) stating "the same day as our AGM" is what Michael had in mind when he marked this item as done. I also see a number of the dates have moved later than was originally on there, which is fine except the formal notice of AGM containing the proposed resolutions (by board or other members) now won't be legally given until July 3, the same day as members are supposed to proposed any amendments. Deadline for that was originally scheduled to be the same as board nominations, which has move a week to July 10. I don't see why the amendments deadline can't be moved likewise. KTC [1]: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediauk-l/2015-June/013124.html -- Katie Chan Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the view of any organisation the author is associated with or employed by. Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On 21/06/2015 10:41, Gordon Joly wrote: The formal legal "notice of a general meeting of a company must state the general nature of the business to be dealt with at the meeting" and "A resolution of the members of a company is validly passed at a general meeting if (a)notice of the meeting and of the resolution is given ....". Last year, a (non-statutory) email was sent on 27/06/2014 to all members telling them to propose any resolutions by 06/07/2014. Regarding that resolution last year.... well, I don't think an ultra vires proposal should have ever got to the meeting, but the board wanted differently. KTC -- Katie Chan Any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent the view of any organisation the author is associated with or employed by. Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

On 20/06/15 23:20, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 19/06/15 16:12, rexx wrote:> The deadline for members' resolutions for this year's AGM is just a week Seems so. Gordo

Better than I had anticipated. But that was mainly due to meeting new people there, rather than the content, per se. I was very impressed with all of the other trustee candidates and I hope we'll keep in touch with the unsuccessful ones. What did you think of it? -- Doug On 28 July 2015 at 10:47, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote: