Dear all,
As a result of discussions at last Sunday's London meetup, and to take advantage of a list created by Rich Farmbrough, I have started drafting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_Kingdom/photograp...
It hath a talkpage.
Hopefully we can finalise in the next three weeks and launch at the next London Meetup https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/110
Apologies to any non Londoners who object to a London event planning anything for the whole of the UK, but only the first draft emerged from the meetup and things are yet changeable.
WSC
Hello,
That's quite an impressive set of articles needing illustrations, I hadn't realised there would be so many. How many are there exactly? There's certainly scope for some kind of initiative to whittle them down.
As WMUK is mentioned on the project page I thought it might be worth providing a viewpoint on it. If we were to support it, by providing prizes for example, the contest would need to tie into the charity's strategic framework https://wikimedia.org.uk/w/images/1/10/Strategic_Framework_2016-19_%28finalised%29.pdf. In which case the contest might need more development.
It's not clear whether people are being asked to upload their own photographs or add images already on Commons, or whether both approaches would be allowed. Since the goal is to reduce the number of articles without pictures, there is the WDFIST tool https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/wdfist/ which can search for images in use through Wikidata and FIST https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/fist.php which can search for images on the likes of Flickr and Geograph. Magnus Manske has left a few links on the talk page to help shorten the list.
The ease of judging depends on how many entries there are. If this gained momentum it might be possible to end up with thousands of images in which case there would need to be a way to share the judging load.
If people are being asked to take their own photos, October and November are not the best months for photography. By the end of November you are down to a little over 8 hours of daylight, the sun will be rather low for a good portion of that, and the weather will be, well, British. In which case another time of year would be preferable. That would also allow some clear water between Wiki Loves Monuments UK and another kind of photography contest.
If this was to take place around May or June it would allow more time for planning and getting some easy wins with the Free Image Search Tools. This might also open up the possibility of piggy backing Wiki Loves Earth if there is a large proportion of natural sites left.
Richard
On 18 August 2016 at 09:29, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
As a result of discussions at last Sunday's London meetup, and to take advantage of a list created by Rich Farmbrough, I have started drafting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_ Kingdom/photography_contest_2016
It hath a talkpage.
Hopefully we can finalise in the next three weeks and launch at the next London Meetup https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/110
Apologies to any non Londoners who object to a London event planning anything for the whole of the UK, but only the first draft emerged from the meetup and things are yet changeable.
WSC
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Thanks Richard,
The original idea was to reuse this list for a photography competition, it has already been used for some image finding exercises. That said last I looked about a third had an image already on commons if you searched. I'll clarify that prizes are for significant effort such as taking a photograph or creating a map.
I thought WMUK would be interested because of your objective about addressing content gaps, and I was hoping for some publicity such as an email to WLM2014 participants. But no problem if WMUK don't want to be involved.
Good point about photography and weather, summer 2017 probably does make more sense.
Regards
WSC
On 18 Aug 2016, at 16:43, Richard Nevell richard.nevell@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Hello,
That's quite an impressive set of articles needing illustrations, I hadn't realised there would be so many. How many are there exactly? There's certainly scope for some kind of initiative to whittle them down.
As WMUK is mentioned on the project page I thought it might be worth providing a viewpoint on it. If we were to support it, by providing prizes for example, the contest would need to tie into the charity's strategic framework. In which case the contest might need more development.
It's not clear whether people are being asked to upload their own photographs or add images already on Commons, or whether both approaches would be allowed. Since the goal is to reduce the number of articles without pictures, there is the WDFIST tool which can search for images in use through Wikidata and FIST which can search for images on the likes of Flickr and Geograph. Magnus Manske has left a few links on the talk page to help shorten the list.
The ease of judging depends on how many entries there are. If this gained momentum it might be possible to end up with thousands of images in which case there would need to be a way to share the judging load.
If people are being asked to take their own photos, October and November are not the best months for photography. By the end of November you are down to a little over 8 hours of daylight, the sun will be rather low for a good portion of that, and the weather will be, well, British. In which case another time of year would be preferable. That would also allow some clear water between Wiki Loves Monuments UK and another kind of photography contest.
If this was to take place around May or June it would allow more time for planning and getting some easy wins with the Free Image Search Tools. This might also open up the possibility of piggy backing Wiki Loves Earth if there is a large proportion of natural sites left.
Richard
On 18 August 2016 at 09:29, WereSpielChequers werespielchequers@gmail.com wrote: Dear all,
As a result of discussions at last Sunday's London meetup, and to take advantage of a list created by Rich Farmbrough, I have started drafting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_United_Kingdom/photograp...
It hath a talkpage.
Hopefully we can finalise in the next three weeks and launch at the next London Meetup https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/London/110
Apologies to any non Londoners who object to a London event planning anything for the whole of the UK, but only the first draft emerged from the meetup and things are yet changeable.
WSC
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By the end of November you are down to a little over 8 hours of daylight, the sun will be rather low for a good portion of that, and the weather will be, well, British. In which case another time of year would be preferable.
Good month for fog? Also December.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bow_Locks_in_fog.jpg
Bow Locks.
Gordo
Great picture!
On 19 August 2016 at 12:04, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
By the end of November you are down to a little over 8 hours of daylight, the sun will be rather low for a good portion of that, and the weather will be, well, British. In which case another time of year would be preferable.
Good month for fog? Also December.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bow_Locks_in_fog.jpg
Bow Locks.
Gordo
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Thanks Gordo,
We also have buildings that are scarcely visible now and are best photographed after the leaves have fallen.
November to July makes sense to me, it also means if the contest takes off there is plenty of time to geocode more articles without images so Rich's list picks them up.
Regards
WSC
On 19 Aug 2016, at 12:04, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com wrote:
By the end of November you are down to a little over 8 hours of daylight, the sun will be rather low for a good portion of that, and the weather will be, well, British. In which case another time of year would be preferable.
Good month for fog? Also December.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bow_Locks_in_fog.jpg
Bow Locks.
Gordo
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