Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed how we could put

a teaching plan so that someone like yourself could organise an enevening course in "creating your own wiki page" ... not sure whether Martin made

progress. I know he was investigating ... I suspect there are a lot of people who would like to put their local history work into Wikipedia ...

we just explained it and demo ed it at the same time. Other thread. I teach secondary ICT. I'm planning to teach intro to Wiki editting next week. I have still to find some resources. Any help appreciated. regards Roger B On 1 June 2011 17:34, Alex Stinson <stinsoad(a)dukes.jmu.edu> wrote: > > There is an education list > at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which appears

> be one of the better ways to contact people because not everyone

> checks outreach wiki (including myself). I invite people to join who want

> work with Education and Wikimedia projects, it include a fair number of > Campus Ambassadors who are doing innovative stuff at universities as well

> a number of other people in various chapters involved in education

> Alex > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Thomas Morton > <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> Hey Alex, >> Yes a lot of that has been my starting point. FWIW there is a lack of >> content for the younger age groups (say 14-16) which is where my current >> focus is; the "beginner" guides are more suited (at least in my

>> of teaching) to older students. I'd also like to see some more material

>> the goals/ideals of Wikipedia (as that seems a better start point before >> leaping into account creation :)). >> >> Also I noticed that a lot of the focus is on editing or contributing >> Wikipedia. I've approached this from a slightly different perspective - >> which is that most of the kids I will be talking to aren't interested in >> writing (and probably aren't yet capable of doing so) a Wikipedia

>> On the other hand I aim to teach them about using WP as a resource (and

>> potential pitfalls) as well as trying to get them to treat it with

>> (i.e. quit the vandalism). >> Is there a place on Outreach where discussion of education/teaching >> materials is happening? >> Tom >> On 1 June 2011 17:15, Alex Stinson <stinsoad(a)dukes.jmu.edu> wrote: >>> >>> "High school professors." Yikes! Meant teachers, not professors. I >>> thought I fixed that in a second read. Been working with universities

>>> too long. >>> Tom, that sounds like something that could really use some development >>> in the way of documented techniques or presenting the information. You

>>> want to check out the stuff on the Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf

>>> for materials you can destribute instead of making all of them yourself >>> (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf). We also have been

>>> a fair amount of stuff at the education portal on outreach, though

>>> work in progress (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education). Alot

>>> already been developed in fairly professional ways, it just needs to be >>> applied in the class room, >>> Alex >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Morton >>> <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Chris, >>>> Yes, that was my impression too - I have some ideas/proposals to try >>>> and bring into play but didn't want to step on top of an active

>>>> I'd missed :P >>>> I'm based in Lincolnshire. >>>> >>>> Alex, >>>> I've been keeping a close eye on the Ambassadors project - it looks >>>> like some great work (yet another reason to wish I was a student again

>>>> Expanding that into schools is a major project, but one that I think

>>>> net us some massive gains long term. I'd be really interested in

>>>> about your work with the high school professors. >>>> In general: >>>> I've been interested in education for a while; I'm a scout leader here >>>> & my parents have their own business doing educational visits to

>>>> the topic of astronomy (so I have fairly extensive experience of that

>>>> of "business model"). The reason I have a specific interest now is

>>>> been approached to look at doing an evening class on computers and the >>>> internet at a local secondary school. One of the topics I want to

>>>> Wikipedia and WP editing. >>>> I could put together some teaching material & release it for others to >>>> use on an ad-hoc basis, but I think there is loads more we could

>>>> if WMUK were behind it - stuff like working with the teaching bodies

>>>> WP recognised as a resource, and perhaps even worked into the

>>>> the very least work with them to provide useful material for >>>> teachers/students about Wikipedia). In fact, something like the

>>>> events Cancer Research people (but for teachers) would be really

>>>> to explore. >>>> Another off-hand idea; it would be great to try and team up with some >>>> of the GLAM institutions to run educational days (i.e. have groups of

>>>> turn up to learn about stuff using local and Wikipedia content, and to

>>>> an introduction to Wikipedia). >>>> And more; we could use WMUK resources to train up and support

>>>> volunteers who want to go into the classroom  - because teaching kids

>>>> damned hard! >>>> There's a lot to focus on, but I think it is one of our most important >>>> outreach areas in the UK. >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> On 1 June 2011 16:40, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com>

>>>>> >>>>> I think it's been hibernating for a while. I haven't heard it >>>>> mentioned at all since the new Board took office. >>>>> Of course, if someone wants to pick up the ball and run with it, that >>>>> would be very welcome. Whereabouts are you, Tom? >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Morton >>>>> <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>> What is the status of our work with >>>>>>

>>>>>> to be a little stagnant, there are references to other School

>>>>>> on the Wiki (including a link to a hidden office page about the

>>>>>> budget). >>>>>> Is any of this still active? >>>>>> I only ask because I've been approached locally to do some in-school >>>>>> work relating to Wikipedia and it occurred to me that this is a

>>>>>> we could be focusing on. >>>>>> I've got a decent amount of experience working with children,

>>>>>> and educators and it would be great to contribute that on a wider

>>>>>> If none of those projects are particularly active, would anyone be >>>>>> interested in working on this (including volunteering to go into

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So we need a lead person or project. Anything that (in time) would have a broader effect than a single evening course would I believe get a good hearing for seed funding/ support Anyone? Roger B On 3 June 2011 14:48, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote: -- Roger Bamkin (aka Victuallers) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org

Tom, WSC Be Bold if you have time. @Tom .... would the OU Do this for us? I could see it as a supplemental module to a number of courses. regards Roger On 3 June 2011 22:11, Thomas Morton <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote: This is an interesting line of thought. I think a lot could be done with local experts. I've been talking to my OU lecturer about this and they strike me as another good avenue for doing adult/expert education of Wikipedia. Tom On 3 June 2011 16:52, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote: So we need a lead person or project. Anything that (in time) would have a broader effect than a single evening course would I believe get a good hearing for seed funding/ support Anyone? Roger B On 3 June 2011 14:48, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com> wrote: My Mum is active in her local branch of the University of the third age, they struck me as a perfect partner for such an evening course. Especially if the UK chapter were to offer the U3A a grant for hiring in approved Wikipedians to deliver said course. But please call it something other than "creating your own wiki page". Aside from winding up the deletionists, that risks letting people think they own a page, or that they can create a page about them. Your hobby/profession/neighbourhood and Wikipedia would be OK, someone else will I hope come up with something snazzier. But this definitely has legs. We could also make use of a photographers version to explain commons to local photography clubs. WereSpielChequers On 1 June 2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote: discussed how we could put together yourself could organise an enevening not sure whether Martin made any suspect there are a lot of history work into Wikipedia ... if same time. planning to teach intro to Wiki some resources. Any help <stinsoad(a)dukes.jmu.edu> wrote: at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which appears to because not everyone regularly invite people to join who want to it include a fair number of stuff at universities as well as chapters involved in education stuffs, Morton point. FWIW there is a lack of 14-16) which is where my current suited (at least in my experience like to see some more material on seems a better start point before on editing or contributing slightly different perspective - talking to aren't interested in of doing so) a Wikipedia article. about using WP as a resource (and the get them to treat it with respect discussion of education/teaching <stinsoad(a)dukes.jmu.edu> wrote: teachers, not professors. I Been working with universities for could really use some development presenting the information. You may Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf project of making all of them yourself (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bookshelf). We also have been developing portal on outreach, though still a (http://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education). Alot has professional ways, it just needs to be >>>> applied in the class room, >>>> Alex >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Morton some ideas/proposals to try step on top of an active project that Ambassadors project - it looks to wish I was a student again :)). project, but one that I think would be really interested in hearing professors. while; I'm a scout leader here doing educational visits to schools on extensive experience of that sort a specific interest now is that I've evening class on computers and the One of the topics I want to cover is material & release it for others to there is loads more we could expand into working with the teaching bodies to get even worked into the curriculum (at useful material for fact, something like the training teachers) would be really interesting to try and team up with some educational days (i.e. have groups of kids and Wikipedia content, and to get train up and support Wikipedia classroom - because teaching kids can be it is one of our most important <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com> wrote: while. I haven't heard it took office. the ball and run with it, that you, Tom? Morton schools/education? http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project seems references to other School interactions hidden office page about the educational approached locally to do some in-school occurred to me that this is a major area working with children, schools contribute that on a wider scale. particularly active, would anyone be (including volunteering to go into schools and _______________________________________________ http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l _______________________________________________ http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l _______________________________________________ http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>>> wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l _______________________________________________ http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l _______________________________________________ http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin (aka Victuallers) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org -- Roger Bamkin (aka Victuallers) _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list wikimediauk-l(a)wikimedia.org http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org