So we need a lead person or project.
Anything that (in time) would have a broader effect than a single evening
course would I believe get a good hearing for seed funding/ support
Anyone?
Roger B
On 3 June 2011 14:48, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
My Mum is active in her local branch of the
University of the third
age, they struck me as a perfect partner for such an evening course.
Especially if the UK chapter were to offer the U3A a grant for hiring
in approved Wikipedians to deliver said course.
But please call it something other than "creating your own wiki page".
Aside from winding up the deletionists, that risks letting people
think they own a page, or that they can create a page about them. Your
hobby/profession/neighbourhood and Wikipedia would be OK, someone else
will I hope come up with something snazzier.
But this definitely has legs.
We could also make use of a photographers version to explain commons
to local photography clubs.
WereSpielChequers
On 1 June 2011 22:36, Roger Bamkin <victuallers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Two minor threads: Martin Poulter and I discussed
how we could put
together
a teaching plan so that someone like yourself
could organise an
enevening
course in "creating your own wiki page"
... not sure whether Martin made
any
progress. I know he was investigating ... I
suspect there are a lot of
people who would like to put their local history work into Wikipedia ...
if
we just explained it and demo ed it at the same
time.
Other thread. I teach secondary ICT. I'm planning to teach intro to Wiki
editting next week. I have still to find some resources. Any help
appreciated.
regards
Roger B
On 1 June 2011 17:34, Alex Stinson <stinsoad(a)dukes.jmu.edu> wrote:
>
> There is an education list
> at
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/education which
appears to
> be one of the better ways to contact people
because not everyone
regularly
> checks outreach wiki (including myself). I
invite people to join who
want to
> work with Education and Wikimedia projects,
it include a fair number of
> Campus Ambassadors who are doing innovative stuff at universities as
well as
> a number of other people in various chapters
involved in education
stuffs,
> Alex
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Thomas Morton
> <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Alex,
>> Yes a lot of that has been my starting point. FWIW there is a lack of
>> content for the younger age groups (say 14-16) which is where my
current
>> focus is; the "beginner" guides
are more suited (at least in my
experience
>> of teaching) to older students. I'd
also like to see some more
material on
>> the goals/ideals of Wikipedia (as that
seems a better start point
before
>> leaping into account creation :)).
>>
>> Also I noticed that a lot of the focus is on editing or contributing
>> Wikipedia. I've approached this from a slightly
different perspective
-
>> which is that most of the kids I will be
talking to aren't interested
in
>> writing (and probably aren't yet
capable of doing so) a Wikipedia
article.
>> On the other hand I aim to teach them
about using WP as a resource
(and the
>> potential pitfalls) as well as trying to
get them to treat it with
respect
>> (i.e. quit the vandalism).
>> Is there a place on Outreach where discussion of education/teaching
>> materials is happening?
>> Tom
>> On 1 June 2011 17:15, Alex Stinson <stinsoad(a)dukes.jmu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> "High school professors." Yikes! Meant teachers, not professors. I
>>> thought I fixed that in a second read. Been working with universities
for
>>> too long.
>>> Tom, that sounds like something that could really use some
development
>>> in the way of documented techniques
or presenting the information.
You may
>>> want to check out the stuff on the
Wikimedia Foundation bookshelf
project
>>> for materials you can destribute
instead of making all of them
yourself
developing
>>> a fair amount of stuff at the
education portal on outreach, though
still a
has
>>> already been developed in fairly
professional ways, it just needs to
be
>>> applied in the class room,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Morton
>>> <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>> Yes, that was my impression too - I have some ideas/proposals to try
>>>> and bring into play but didn't want to step on top of an active
project that
>>>> I'd missed :P
>>>> I'm based in Lincolnshire.
>>>>
>>>> Alex,
>>>> I've been keeping a close eye on the Ambassadors project - it looks
>>>> like some great work (yet another reason to wish I was a student
again :)).
>>>> Expanding that into schools is a
major project, but one that I think
would
>>>> net us some massive gains long
term. I'd be really interested in
hearing
>>>> about your work with the high
school professors.
>>>> In general:
>>>> I've been interested in education for a while; I'm a scout leader
here
>>>> & my parents have their own
business doing educational visits to
schools on
>>>> the topic of astronomy (so I have
fairly extensive experience of
that sort
>>>> of "business model").
The reason I have a specific interest now is
that I've
>>>> been approached to look at doing
an evening class on computers and
the
>>>> internet at a local secondary
school. One of the topics I want to
cover is
>>>> Wikipedia and WP editing.
>>>> I could put together some teaching material & release it for others
to
>>>> use on an ad-hoc basis, but I
think there is loads more we could
expand into
>>>> if WMUK were behind it - stuff
like working with the teaching bodies
to get
>>>> WP recognised as a resource, and
perhaps even worked into the
curriculum (at
>>>> the very least work with them to
provide useful material for
>>>> teachers/students about Wikipedia). In fact, something like the
training
>>>> events Cancer Research people
(but for teachers) would be really
interesting
>>>> to explore.
>>>> Another off-hand idea; it would be great to try and team up with
some
>>>> of the GLAM institutions to run
educational days (i.e. have groups
of kids
>>>> turn up to learn about stuff
using local and Wikipedia content, and
to get
>>>> an introduction to Wikipedia).
>>>> And more; we could use WMUK resources to train up and support
Wikipedia
>>>> volunteers who want to go into
the classroom - because teaching
kids can be
>>>> damned hard!
>>>> There's a lot to focus on, but I think it is one of our most
important
>>>> outreach areas in the UK.
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> On 1 June 2011 16:40, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it's been hibernating for a while. I haven't heard
it
>>>>> mentioned at all since the new Board took office.
>>>>> Of course, if someone wants to pick up the ball and run with it,
that
>>>>> would be very welcome.
Whereabouts are you, Tom?
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Thomas Morton
>>>>> <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> What is the status of our work with
>>>>>> schools/education?
http://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Initiatives/Schools_project seems
>>>>>> to be a little stagnant,
there are references to other School
interactions
>>>>>> on the Wiki (including a
link to a hidden office page about the
educational
>>>>>> budget).
>>>>>> Is any of this still active?
>>>>>> I only ask because I've been approached locally to do some
in-school
>>>>>> work relating to
Wikipedia and it occurred to me that this is a
major area
>>>>>> we could be focusing on.
>>>>>> I've got a decent amount of experience working with children,
schools
>>>>>> and educators and it
would be great to contribute that on a wider
scale.
>>>>>> If none of those projects
are particularly active, would anyone be
>>>>>> interested in working on this (including volunteering to go into
schools and
>>>>> youth groups)?
>>>>> Tom / ErrantX
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