2008/7/23 Tom Holden thomas.holden@gmail.com:
It's very hard to know our chances of getting this or anything else at the moment. I imagine though that it will become pretty clear pretty quickly in the meeting, so ask me again in 8 days. As for how we improve our chances, I think we just have to present the case as compellingly as possible. I'm going to go through lists of past speeches to draw up a list of talks which may have had serious academic content of interest to those at the OII, and I'm very much open to suggestions of anything else I should be presenting them.
Do they have any museums or collections they would like attention drawn to? We could probably arrange for some commons people to a mass photo and upload session.
The OII itself doesn't have a museum, if that's what you meant. Balliol has assorted paintings (particularly portraits) some by vaguely notable artists, some of vaguely notable individuals. And the university itself has many internationally important collections (the Ashmolean, the Pitt Rivers, the History of Science Museum). But I'm not sure any of them particularly need any more attention than they already get. They would no doubt be very happy to have a complete digital record of their collections (if they don't already have one), but because of the modular nature of the university it wouldn't help us a great deal. (Making a museum curator happy wouldn't help get us facilities. The Natural History museum is the only one with a lecture theatre off the top of my head, and it's not that big.)
Tom
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2008/7/23 Tom Holden thomas.holden@gmail.com:
It's very hard to know our chances of getting this or anything else at the moment. I imagine though that it will become pretty clear pretty quickly
in
the meeting, so ask me again in 8 days. As for how we improve our chances,
I
think we just have to present the case as compellingly as possible. I'm going to go through lists of past speeches to draw up a list of talks
which
may have had serious academic content of interest to those at the OII, and I'm very much open to suggestions of anything else I should be presenting them.
Do they have any museums or collections they would like attention drawn to? We could probably arrange for some commons people to a mass photo and upload session.
It is likely that the OII would have greatly reduced rates for holding conferences, it may even be worth getting in touch with the vice chancellor of the university.
J. Seddon
From: thomas.holden@gmail.com> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:08:24 +0100> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage> > The OII itself doesn't have a museum, if that's what you meant. Balliol has> assorted paintings (particularly portraits) some by vaguely notable artists,> some of vaguely notable individuals. And the university itself has many> internationally important collections (the Ashmolean, the Pitt Rivers, the> History of Science Museum). But I'm not sure any of them particularly need> any more attention than they already get. They would no doubt be very happy> to have a complete digital record of their collections (if they don't> already have one), but because of the modular nature of the university it> wouldn't help us a great deal. (Making a museum curator happy wouldn't help> get us facilities. The Natural History museum is the only one with a lecture> theatre off the top of my head, and it's not that big.)> > Tom> > -----Original Message-----> From: wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of geni> Sent: 23 July 2008 20:17> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to> offer the OII in return at this stage> > 2008/7/23 Tom Holden thomas.holden@gmail.com:> > It's very hard to know our chances of getting this or anything else at the> > moment. I imagine though that it will become pretty clear pretty quickly> in> > the meeting, so ask me again in 8 days. As for how we improve our chances,> I> > think we just have to present the case as compellingly as possible. I'm> > going to go through lists of past speeches to draw up a list of talks> which> > may have had serious academic content of interest to those at the OII, and> > I'm very much open to suggestions of anything else I should be presenting> > them.> > Do they have any museums or collections they would like attention> drawn to? We could probably arrange for some commons people to a mass> photo and upload session.> > > -- > geni> > _______________________________________________> Wikimedia UK mailing list> wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK%3E http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l%3E > > _______________________________________________> Wikimedia UK mailing list> wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK%3E http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
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You may be right on the first count, we'll see when I meet with them. On the latter I think it would be unwise to do it over the heads of those I've already contacted, but perhaps if they are sufficiently enthused and we'd OK'd it with them (or better still got them to do it) then it might be acceptable (and useful).
From: wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of joseph seddon Sent: 23 July 2008 21:22 To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage
It is likely that the OII would have greatly reduced rates for holding conferences, it may even be worth getting in touch with the vice chancellor of the university.
J. Seddon
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From: thomas.holden@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:08:24 +0100 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK
to offer the OII in return at this stage
The OII itself doesn't have a museum, if that's what you meant. Balliol
has
assorted paintings (particularly portraits) some by vaguely notable
artists,
some of vaguely notable individuals. And the university itself has many internationally important collections (the Ashmolean, the Pitt Rivers, the History of Science Museum). But I'm not sure any of them particularly need any more attention than they already get. They would no doubt be very
happy
to have a complete digital record of their collections (if they don't already have one), but because of the modular nature of the university it wouldn't help us a great deal. (Making a museum curator happy wouldn't
help
get us facilities. The Natural History museum is the only one with a
lecture
theatre off the top of my head, and it's not that big.)
Tom
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to
offer the OII in return at this stage
2008/7/23 Tom Holden thomas.holden@gmail.com:
It's very hard to know our chances of getting this or anything else at
the
moment. I imagine though that it will become pretty clear pretty quickly
in
the meeting, so ask me again in 8 days. As for how we improve our
chances,
I
think we just have to present the case as compellingly as possible. I'm going to go through lists of past speeches to draw up a list of talks
which
may have had serious academic content of interest to those at the OII,
and
I'm very much open to suggestions of anything else I should be
presenting
them.
Do they have any museums or collections they would like attention drawn to? We could probably arrange for some commons people to a mass photo and upload session.
-- geni
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Hopefully th OII can be convinced and if they can sort out the internally saving us alot of hassle. In the next 8 days i suggest we try and find alternatives in case this falls through.
J. Seddon
From: thomas.holden@gmail.comTo: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.orgDate: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:27:32 +0100Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage
You may be right on the first count, we’ll see when I meet with them. On the latter I think it would be unwise to do it over the heads of those I’ve already contacted, but perhaps if they are sufficiently enthused and we’d OK’d it with them (or better still got them to do it) then it might be acceptable (and useful).
From: wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of joseph seddonSent: 23 July 2008 21:22To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.orgSubject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage
It is likely that the OII would have greatly reduced rates for holding conferences, it may even be worth getting in touch with the vice chancellor of the university. J. Seddon
From: thomas.holden@gmail.com> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:08:24 +0100> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to offer the OII in return at this stage> > The OII itself doesn't have a museum, if that's what you meant. Balliol has> assorted paintings (particularly portraits) some by vaguely notable artists,> some of vaguely notable individuals. And the university itself has many> internationally important collections (the Ashmolean, the Pitt Rivers, the> History of Science Museum). But I'm not sure any of them particularly need> any more attention than they already get. They would no doubt be very happy> to have a complete digital record of their collections (if they don't> already have one), but because of the modular nature of the university it> wouldn't help us a great deal. (Making a museum curator happy wouldn't help> get us facilities. The Natural History museum is the only one with a lecture> theatre off the top of my head, and it's not that big.)> > Tom> > -----Original Message-----> From: wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org> [mailto:wikimediauk-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of geni> Sent: 23 July 2008 20:17> To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Wikimania Oxford 2010 Tasks + What is it OK to> offer the OII in return at this stage> > 2008/7/23 Tom Holden thomas.holden@gmail.com:> > It's very hard to know our chances of getting this or anything else at the> > moment. I imagine though that it will become pretty clear pretty quickly> in> > the meeting, so ask me again in 8 days. As for how we improve our chances,> I> > think we just have to present the case as compellingly as possible. I'm> > going to go through lists of past speeches to draw up a list of talks> which> > may have had serious academic content of interest to those at the OII, and> > I'm very much open to suggestions of anything else I should be presenting> > them.> > Do they have any museums or collections they would like attention> drawn to? We could probably arrange for some commons people to a mass> photo and upload session.> > > -- > geni> > _______________________________________________> Wikimedia UK mailing list> wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK%3E http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l%3E > > _______________________________________________> Wikimedia UK mailing list> wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK%3E http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
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