Hello,
unfortunately we have not received any replies after this thread. As I understand it, there is some enthusiasm with individuals, but nobody is prepared to take a lead, within or outside Wikimedia UK? Basically what you need is two types of leadership:
1) someone to set up a primary structure on Wikipedia - basically a Wikiproject - and motivates others to help out setting up the list system (this is the most important and urgent job) 2) someone to do the real life part of the organization: organize a brainstorm meeting, organize a meeting with the relevant authorities to get the databases released if not yet available, to find sponsors, set up a budget etc.
Any volunteers? I hope Wikimedia UK can pick up from here though ;-)
Thanks, Lodewijk
2011/2/4 effe iets anders effeietsanders@gmail.com
Hello all,
I know there has been some discussion about a Wiki Loves Monuments in the UK, but I have heard little back after that. I think there is definitely a lot of potential in the UK for setting up a project like this, and hope that it would be possible to find the volunteers to run this in the coming time.
Who can take the lead on this in the UK?
Please see http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000001.... for my email and offer to join a brainstorm session if there would be need/advantage for that. If that would help, I am more than happy to join you guys somewhere reachable in a conversation on how to make this happen. I got the suggestion the coming up London Meetup might be helpful. Are there many interested people from outside London? Would Wikimedia UK be able and willing to set up a meeting there and to reimburse for example some travel costs for those outside London to join the meeting? Just shooting some suggestions here, I'm sure you can come up with better :)
Do remind please that to make this work, you really have to give this a start in February, or it will be very hard to have the lists and systems in place in time.
I look forward to your positive and constructive replies!
Lodewijk Gelauff
2010/12/15 Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net:
Forwarding with permission of the sender. I'm very eager to see the UK
and
Ireland participate in this if possible, but from my experience of
running
Britain Loves Wikipedia I'm very aware that this needs a team of people running it rather than just one person. So: is anyone interested in leading/helping with this project?
Thanks, Mike Begin forwarded message:
From: Lodewijk lodewijk@effeietsanders.org Date: 14 December 2010 20:20:15 GMT To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
subscription)"
internal-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 - Europe? Reply-To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription)" internal-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Summary of this email (sorry for long text): We did Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM) 2010 in the Netherlands, we would like to do Wiki Loves Monuments again in 2011, but now in Europe. This is only possible when many
chapters
participate, therefore this e-mail. To be clear: this event will only
happen
on a European level if there is sufficient chapter participation to
combine
efforts. Please feel free to forward to whomever you find appropriate. You might have heard before about Wiki Loves Monuments 2010 in the Netherlands. It was a highly successful photo scavenger hunt with 12.500 submissions and over 250 participants[0]. We recently completed a post mortem of this event with a more extensive description and analysis [1]. However, there are still many monuments in the Netherlands which can be photographed, so we are considering another run for next year - but then
in
a European context. Below we will explain a bit how we got where we are, what we have in mind, and what you could expect. So how did this all start? At the Dutch Wikipedia we have the windmill project. One of the main goals was to get an article with an image for
every
windmill in the Netherlands. Lists were created of windmills per province and statistics were made on a regular basis to track progress. This
approach
worked very well and made it possible to tackle a big problem; All the windmills have an article now. Some volunteers, in cooperation with the chapter, managed to get a
dataset
of all "Rijksmonumenten" (Dutch national monuments - 60.000 buildings/objects with some historical or cultural relevance) from the "Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel Erfgoed" (Dutch national heritage organisation, RCE). This marked the birth of the "Rijksmonumenten"
project.
The project uses the lessons learned in the windmill project. The data
from
the RCE was converted into lists by location and put on the Dutch
Wikipedia.
The community started improving the lists by adding missing information
or
adding photo's. In June 2009 Wikimedia Nederland ran Wiki Loves Art /NL [2] : A photo scavenger hunt in more than 40 museums. Also quite successful (5.400 photos), but much more work intensive because you need to keep contacts
with
all the museums and usually museums are further away from people's homes than the nearest monuments. For 2010 we were looking for a nice topic for a photo competition. The "Rijksmonumenten" project was running very well so we decided to organize Wiki Loves Monuments to give this Wikipedia project a boost. So, what would a European WLM most likely look like? Let me give you an
idea
of what we are thinking of, changes are open for debate of course. Trying
to
incorporate the main lessons from last year in the Netherlands into a European model, we think it might work best if Wiki Loves Monuments is organized on a national level primarily, but with cooperations, shared resources and international prizes on a European level. The national contests do not have to be identical, but some consistency would be practical. We are not sure yet what countries would be most successful,
but
our initial hope would be EU chapter countries and Switzerland. Basically, Wiki Loves Monuments would run 1-30 September 2011, and participants would be allowed to submit photos of monuments which are
part
of the object list. This object list includes the address and ideally geo-coordinates of all monuments which are allowed to participate. In
each
participating country there would be some prizes available, to be awarded
by
a jury for that country. The top-X of each could be competing for
European
prizes. You can find more information on how WLM 2010 was organized on the post-mortem [1]. That also lines out in more detail how much work it
would
be, and what the positive impact could be. Most of the local work would be to get a database with the objects,
create
object lists from that (possibly Dutch volunteers could support you with that, they have the experience [3]) and get the community involved on
that.
You would need to get communications going, both external to the press (press releases etc) as to participants (have a clear website in your language(s) with explanation, rules etc), find a jury and prizes for them
to
award. We can help each other with example press releases, best
practices,
template and list examples and community motivation. So, what to do when you like this idea? Well, it would be good to first
of
all check with your collegues (at the board, other members, community)
what
they think of it. You probably need several people to run such a
competition
over time to some extent. Next step would be to do some analysis on your local situation: who would be good partners (who keeps the lists of monuments?) for you, how many monuments are there in your country, are
they
well spread? What information/photos are already available of it roughly? Are there community members involved in that kind of topic? Definitely
read
the post-mortem and some relevant links from there [1]. For the time being, we registered www.wikilovesmonuments.eu and are in
touch
with CARARE and Europeana (European cultural heritage organizations) -
who
seem to be interested in laying contacts with local cultural heritage organizations. Hopefully that helps them to realize the European context
and
impact this could have. The most important partner in each country would
be
the one that governs the database with all monuments, and could release
that
to you. This database/list is crucial for the success of such an event. Please inform us (ideally through internal-l) when you would be
interested
in joining in such European event, if there is enough enthusiasm, we will create a special (easy to join) mailing list to coordinate efforts to
allow
more volunteers to join in the discussions. We already took the liberty
of
discussing this with some other chapters, and are hopeful that it will actually get to a first grand chapter cooperation program. Of course this does not mean you are bound, but that you think you would like to participate. You can also join #wikilovesmonuments on freenode irc of
course
if you like. With kind regards, Maarten Dammers Lodewijk Gelauff
[1]:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem
[3]:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_syst...
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On 18/02/2011 09:54, effe iets anders wrote:
Hello,
unfortunately we have not received any replies after this thread. As I understand it, there is some enthusiasm with individuals, but nobody is prepared to take a lead, within or outside Wikimedia UK? Basically what you need is two types of leadership:
- someone to set up a primary structure on Wikipedia - basically a
Wikiproject - and motivates others to help out setting up the list system (this is the most important and urgent job) 2) someone to do the real life part of the organization: organize a brainstorm meeting, organize a meeting with the relevant authorities to get the databases released if not yet available, to find sponsors, set up a budget etc.
Any volunteers? I hope Wikimedia UK can pick up from here though ;-)
In fact something is supposed to be happening with the English Heritage file of Scheduled Monuments, which is a free but awkward download. I'll update this list when there is some actual news.
Charles
2011/2/18 Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com
On 18/02/2011 09:54, effe iets anders wrote:
Hello,
unfortunately we have not received any replies after this thread. As I understand it, there is some enthusiasm with individuals, but nobody is prepared to take a lead, within or outside Wikimedia UK? Basically what you need is two types of leadership:
- someone to set up a primary structure on Wikipedia - basically a
Wikiproject - and motivates others to help out setting up the list system (this is the most important and urgent job) 2) someone to do the real life part of the organization: organize a brainstorm meeting, organize a meeting with the relevant authorities to get the databases released if not yet available, to find sponsors, set up a budget etc.
Any volunteers? I hope Wikimedia UK can pick up from here though ;-)
In fact something is supposed to be happening with the English Heritage file of Scheduled Monuments, which is a free but awkward download. I'll update this list when there is some actual news.
Charles
Do I understand correctly that you (and maybe more people) are currently working on this? That would be great! It would be very helpful if that kind of information could be shared, also internationally :) That way people know who to approach if they want to help etc. You can share this kind of info on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Progress and it would be helpful if you could subscribe to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonumentsThanks!
Lodewijk
On 18/02/2011 14:45, Lodewijk wrote:
Do I understand correctly that you (and maybe more people) are currently working on this? That would be great! It would be very helpful if that kind of information could be shared, also internationally :) That way people know who to approach if they want to help etc. You can share this kind of info on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2011/Progress and it would be helpful if you could subscribe to https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments
So far I have tricked someone else into trying to deal with the file that has data on 18,000 monuments :-) That's all.
Charles
wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org