Following on from being a garantor member you have to be 18. If for instance you are 16 and want to have a contract phone you have to be 18 or have your parents/carers be garantor. This therefore means that you should not allow under 18s to be garantor members as they are not legally responsible should the company go into liquidation.
Chris
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 17:36:49 +0100 From: thomas.dalton@gmail.com To: wikimediauk-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Age limits
Well, I suppose the distinction is really that one is about governance of the organisation, the other about fundraising and developing a consistent income stream -- making sure that donors from 2008 go on to donate in 2009 as well. I don't know whether this is worth doing -- in any case, it wouldn't be necessary to make the decision immediately.
I think the best way to get donors to keep donating is to set up direct debits, then they have to make a concious decision to stop rather than a concious decision to keep going. I did a minimal amount of research into direct debits and it looks like there are a fair few hoops to jump through to prove you're trustworthy enough to be able to take money out of other people's accounts, someone should do some proper research into it (perhaps ask the people in the bank while setting up the account).
I think the only reason to have the two separate is if we expect a significant number of people to be in one group but not the other (the occasional exception can be made on a case-by-case basis).
My other reasoning was that it was my understanding from someone's post to this list that it is not allowed to charge for guarantor membership -- is this correct?
So say the people involved in v1.0, but I can't find any mention of such a rule anywhere and the model docs (and, in fact, the v1.0 docs) include a bit about the board setting membership fees (in the bit about Rules) and a bit about terminating people's membership if they don't pay up within 6 months of money coming due (in the bit about membership). I spoke to James about it and he was going to take a look at the documents to see if I was misinterpreting something, but he hasn't got back to me yet.
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