There were actually a lot of discussions at Wikimania about how to get to a
point where commonly used file types are allowed to be used. Perhaps I’ll
write a blog post about it which might help inform this discussion.
On Wed, 25 Oct 2017 at 09:50, Rex X <freezetag(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Commons does not allow "normal video file
types" because many of them
contain
proprietary coding.
Part of our mission is to encourage the growth of open resources and that
includes open software and open standards. Commons takes that seriously
and it's
important that we do as well. Even if it seems inconvenient at times.
--
Rexx
On 24 October 2017 at 13:51 John Lubbock
<john.lubbock(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
wrote:
Is the plan to transfer them from YouTube via Video2Commons? In the past,
I've found that this tool often fails. It really is a shame that no
progress has been made on allowing normal video file types.
John Lubbock
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On 24 October 2017 at 10:50, Michael Maggs <michael(a)maggs.name> wrote:
> Change at You Tube would be best actually, but I'd understood from your
> message that for whatever reason S4C have not managed to change the
> publicly visible You Tube licences.
>
> Shall we discuss in more detail off list?
>
> Michael
>
> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:39, Robin Owain <info(a)cymruwales.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Michael!
>
> You recommend OTRS rather than change at You Tube? OK, I'll take your
lead
> on this and email you asap.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Robin
>
> On 24 October 2017 at 10:29 Michael Maggs <michael(a)maggs.name> wrote:
>
> Yes I can help.
>
> To ensure the videos aren't challenged on Commons we'll need formal
> confirmation from an authorised person at S4C to be sent to OTRS. If
you
> could privately let me know details of the
person who could provide the
> necessary confirmation I can draft a suitable email for them to send to
> OTRS. The uploaded files can then be tagged appropriately so that
users
> don't start deleting them based on what
they can see on YouTube.
>
> Michael
>
> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:10, Robin Owain <info(a)cymruwales.com> wrote:
>
> S4C have agreed to change their 'Usual You Tube licence' of videos on
> their 2017 Royal Welsh Show account (and previous years) to CCBYSA.
This
> means we can upload around 2,000 videos to
Commons. It also means that
S4C,
> for the first time, have discussed and
understood legality and
benefits of
> open licencing, and could produce footage of
other subjects.
>
> Link:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOrGrdJcnGuiCXMc3tCUvnA/videos
>
> I gave them two options:
>
> 1. RTS (the simple option)
>
> 2. Change licence on You Tube to CC (recommended as it's visible on You
> Tube).
>
> They say that they have changed the licence (using batch - manual
> historical), but that it's not visible on any of the videos on You
Tube,
> and the videos don't appear in a Google
CC search.
>
> Any help please?
>
> PS In due course we will need to transfer them over to Commons with a
> pilot patch of 10. Each video will need a 5 second subtitle saying
"S4C
-
> Sianel Pedwar Cymru". A project will
then take place in order to
subtitle
the main
points in English eg names of species, breeds, farm location.
Clips from each video could also be taken, and placed in that breed's
Category on Commons, Wikidata etc.
But first - the licence!
Robin Owain
Wikimedia UK
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