Newslines' self-publicisng comments have reached the point of being
flagkilled as spam on Hacker News, fwiw.
On 3 January 2015 at 11:18, leutha(a)fabiant.eu <leutha(a)fabiant.eu> wrote:
Hi all,
Thanks to Simon for the link. I noticed a comment by Mark Devlin, founder of
Newslines. I started writing a response, as a Wikimedian, but as I explored
his background I discovered that he see Wikipedia as a rival to his project
(which is a bit like the Chinese
Baike.com website). Then I noticed several
critical articles on Wikipedia, which generally lead to why Newsline is so
much better.
As I am temporarily an employee of Wikimedia UK, I feel uncomfortable about
posting a comment on the THE comments page. However would be interested in
hearing other peoples views on this.
For what its worth here is what I drafted before I abandoned my posting:
I am a long term contributor to Wikipedia and would like to respond to
Mark's comment above.
Whilst I agree that the symbiotic relationship between Google and Wikipedia
is worthy of further consideration, Mark's conclusion that people such as me
who actually create the content get nothing is not really valid. Were we to
live in the somewhat constrained universe created by economic theorists
where money is the proxy for everything, he might have a point. But such a
world is a fantasy. Humanity cannot be reduced to Homo Economicus.
We, and here "we" is not just restricted to the Wikimedian community, get a
free online encyclopedia. When asked by people why I contribute to Wikipedia
my response is not based on altruism (a useful side product), but on
pragmatic utility. Wikipedia functions as a "magic notebook": when I come
across an interesting fact which I would like to remember, Wikipedia offers
an extension to my natural faculties. I can record the fact, along with any
appropriate reference, on the relevant Wikipedia page. I can even start a
page where no page existed before. And I don't even have to remember where I
made the note. If I have put in suitable links from broader topic pages, I
can use the links to find my way back to the information I recorded. But
that's not all. I often find that others have contributed more information.
The seed I planted has grown, has been watered by many hands. My knowledge
expands. And in time I have become part of a global community that shares my
interest in learning.
That is a public good which is very far from being "nothing".
Thanks
Fabian
aka Leutha
On 02 January 2015 at 16:04 Simon Knight <sjgknight(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all
New book on Wikipedia & a review in the Times Higher (no paywall):
http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/books/wikipedia-and-the-politics-of-o…
including a short interview/bio-sketch with the author.
Might be of interest.
Cheers
Simon
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