Grow up you moron Andreas
This talk was in September 2011 I know I was there -Roger had no
consultancy till this year (2012) so what was he selling oxygen, snake
oil? Monmouthpedia did not exist it was many months way. Vouchers were
given for free by museums to encourage people to edit.
His comments are simply descriptions of what happened how would you
explain what happened in words of one syllable that prevent idiots like you
from spinning nonsense like this?
[mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Andreas
Sent: 20 September 2012 17:51
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Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] Paid editing by Roger Bamkin
Here is a video of a presentation openly selling the SEO value of Wikipedia,
and Wikipedia front page appearances, in the name of Wikimedia UK:
"Can we help put Bristol on the global map longer term, that's why we want
to talk to you today." [3.25]
"Roger's going to tell you all about Derby Museum, and what we did for
"We partnered Derby Museum. [...] We thought we'd pick on one small museum
and give it a lot of it, national attention, even international attention,
into one museum, just to see what kind of effect we could have on a museum,
how we could affect its profile." [6.23]
"We made the front pages of the main Wikipedias [... English, French,
Polish, Russian ...] It's giving us more hits to Derby Museum's web page, so
it's actually going from our page, clicking through to their web page, it's
fulfilling our mission to educate and to share information around the world,
and it's raising the interest and status of the city." [12.22]
"It's a phenomenally cheap, and very, very imaginative way to absolutely
energize a city and put a city on the map." [17.41]
I am not comfortable with this sales pitch especially when it is combined
with private consultancy contracts for those making it. It is not consistent
with the spirit and ideals of the project I signed up to more than six years
ago, and with the spirit and ideals of Wikipedia as communicated to the
And it is arguably an exploitation of volunteer editors for personal profit.
There is a telling passage in the latter part of the presentation about how
creating massive amounts of text in multiple languages would have cost a lot
of money, and how, just by advertising "prizes of some books and a £50 book
voucher" on Wikipedia, 100 articles were created for the project in the
space of one week, at no cost.
Today, even after the brouhaha all over the European press, another
Gibraltar DYK ran on the Wikipedia main page.