2009/8/11 Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>om>:
2009/8/11 geni <geniice(a)gmail.com>om>:
2009/8/10 Michael Peel
<email(a)mikepeel.net>et>:
Hi all,
Anyone interested in the below? As I understand it, they want to
cover the range of philosophies on Wikipedia - they already have
people involved with an inclusionist or middle-ist point of view, but
no-one from a deletionist viewpoint.
Could be tricky. Classic deletionism is largely a spent force to the
point where the deletion/inclusion argument isn't anywhere near the
conflict it used to be. What do they need from those who take part?
Heh I would still tend to identify as a deletionist but for somewhat
different reasons than classic deletionism.
That's what I was thinking - there are very few people that actually
fall neatly into one of those categories. If they portray Wikipedia as
having a deletion/inclusion divide it will be rather misleading. We've
pretty much reached a consensus on what it means to be notable, it's
just how to apply that to individual cases that gives us material for
our much loved dramas.
From my (archaic? ;-)) relatively inclusionist PoV (the
specific
'camp' with which I most closely identified/y was
"eventualism"), I
consider the prevailing attitude on enwiki to be rather more
deletionist than it was in the "early days" ('02-'04); the 2005-6
period was considerably more deleitionist still, certainly, and we've
relented from that to an extent, but mostly in the form of subject
beach-heads combined with draconian rules for the unwary (the CSAs in
particular); I feel that the enwiki community at large is slowly
drifting further towards the inclusionist mentality, but at the same
time, away from the eventualist PoV, which the CSAs undermines.
A proper consideration of this multi-dimensionality could be
interesting for community members, but (a) difficult to put across,
and (b) not necessarily as interesting, to outsiders.
J.
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James D. Forrester
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