The chapter doesn't in any sense control this list, does it?
As you note, the chapter is a subset of the UK community, and this list
exists for the latter not the former. As such, holding the chapter liable
for actions of the list admin(s) would not be entirely rational.
On Apr 6, 2012 12:49 AM, "joseph seddon"
<life_is_bitter_sweet(a)hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
Its the perception of openness. I will note that this
list pre-dates the
existence of the chapter. Such a fundamental change in how the openess
of list is percieved is an unbelievably important concept, and without even
discussing with the list community involved wouldn't be tolerated elsewhere should
it have been done by the foundation.
Its been used by both incarnations of chapter, wiki-meets, wikimania bids,
in fact this list was pretty much the sole catalyst why the chapter got
rebooted. This is list for use by the UK community as a whole. The chapter
supports that community not control it. I know that this is such a minor
matter but it really is something that the board and whoever sits on it now
and in the future has got to remember. I don't question the motives or
integrity or the board. I am 100% certain that this was done in complete
good faith but its a trap that I know people on and off the board are
always worried about and that's the role of the chapter in the UK
community. This is the kind of action that should not happen by committee.
Its a unilateral move that is unwarrented and is simply unacceptable.
The action is pointless and I dont think that the archives should remain
closed but the main point and one I have a major issue with, is how this
action occured. I do not want to have to start making arguments to the
board that we make to the foundation.
Seddon
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Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:31:04 +0100
From: james.farrar(a)gmail.com
To: wikimediauk-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] List archives
The counter-argument is, of course, if the archives are trivially
available, what is the problem?
On Apr 5, 2012 11:20 PM, "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On 5 April 2012 23:10, Thomas Morton <morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Well; someone just told me I was mistaken and
that wasn't the reason.
Sorry!
Perhaps that someone would like to tell us what the actual reason was?
All having the archives private does is make it more inconvenient.
Anyone can still access them by subscribing. They are still indexed by
search engines because there are unofficial archives elsewhere on the
web. What is the gain?
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