The answer is "well yes, a lot of those are under the same consideration, sources that are even worse tend not to be disputed as to being obviously not good."
On 9 February 2017 at 15:57, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
And NB that none of the 12,000 links to the Mail from Wikipedia have been removed yet by the "ban", and they will be reviewed and possibly replaced one-by-one, just like we review every other contribution..... (If the "ban" in fact remains in force - I have a suspicion the RfC won't be the last word on the subject!)
Which leaves the question of "why blacklist the Daily Mail not even worse sources?" If anyone can suggest an answer to that which would keep a journo happy I'd be interested to hear it .... ;)
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 3:47 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
compare -
- not right-wing-ness - e.g. the Times and Telegraph are both serious
papers that lean right
- in fact - The Sun is not OK and the Times is, even though same politics
and same publisher, because one's a tabloid and one's a serious paper
- memorise the long lists of egregious falsehoods brought up in the RFC,
recite in a calm voice while smiling
On 9 February 2017 at 15:45, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
That is literally what the task is, yes :-)
On 9 February 2017 at 15:41, Chris Keating chriskeatingwiki@gmail.com wrote:
Hmmm, trying to turn an interview from "zomg! Wikipedia bans the Mail!" round to "actually this is all normal and we have some really interesting community preferences" sounds.... tricky. ;)
On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 1:51 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Usual line is "editorial decision, I'll forward your details to some editors" then email here ;-D
sooooo er, editors?
On 9 February 2017 at 13:45, Lucy Crompton-Reid lucy.crompton-reid@wikimedia.org.uk wrote:
Hi all
Thanks very much for flagging this David. I think it would be great
if
someone could talk about this from an editor's perspective - in
particular
the process of consensus building within the Wikipedia community, as
it's
clear many people working in the media don't understand this. If
someone
does respond to you directly, please could you let me know?
The office has had a flood of emails and phone calls which we've been fielding as best as we can. I'm hoping that when San Francisco wakes
up and
comes online they will send me their statement on the issue, which
would
help to deal with enquiries.
All best Lucy
On 9 February 2017 at 13:38, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote: > > BBC Newsnight want a Wikipedia editor who can talk about this, for > tonight. I can't, can anyone else? Email me and I'll forward you the > email. > > > - d. > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediauk-l@wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk
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