Is there any way to involve TranslateWiki in translated MediaWiki: namespace strings?
Sometimes things are translated via subpages, e.g. MediaWiki:Foo/fr, MediaWiki:Foo/de, etc. That works okay for static texts, but it's hard to know when or if we're missing a translation.
It gets worse on Commons where licenses are defined by MediaWiki:Licenses. Ignoring the "language hacks" that were done like "enownwork", this is really a data structure that has to be internationalized, and sometimes the different translations of the data structure get out of sync....
This message might have been a bit cryptic -- I posted a similar question on Commons' Village Pump. Perhaps that will give context.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Translation_of_MediaW...
On 3/31/11 4:29 PM, Neil Kandalgaonkar wrote:
Is there any way to involve TranslateWiki in translated MediaWiki: namespace strings?
Sometimes things are translated via subpages, e.g. MediaWiki:Foo/fr, MediaWiki:Foo/de, etc. That works okay for static texts, but it's hard to know when or if we're missing a translation.
It gets worse on Commons where licenses are defined by MediaWiki:Licenses. Ignoring the "language hacks" that were done like "enownwork", this is really a data structure that has to be internationalized, and sometimes the different translations of the data structure get out of sync....
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Neil Kandalgaonkar neilk@wikimedia.org wrote:
It gets worse on Commons where licenses are defined by MediaWiki:Licenses. Ignoring the "language hacks" that were done like "enownwork", this is really a data structure that has to be internationalized, and sometimes the different translations of the data structure get out of sync....
Have you seen the "Wikimedia License Texts" pesudo-extension on translatewiki? I think that might be at least similar to, if not the same thing as, what you're talking about.
The link to the "en-gb" version of these messages (it won't list them on just en because it's the source) is: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&task=view&group=ext-wikimedialicensetexts&language=en-gb&limit=500
I'm aware of that extension, but it doesn't quite do what I want.
That provides internationalizations for things like
"This work is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0"
Not the actual name of the license, which you might want to pick out of a set of checkboxes or radio buttons depending on the circumstance:
"Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0"
To complicate matters further many of the "translations" are just more wikitext to be evaluated (they refer to Creative Commons templates).
That said this might be the appropriate place to put such translated strings.
Anyway, a possible compromise might be to define license descriptions & names in such extensions, but to control configuration of which licenses were enabled via the MediaWiki: namespace.
On 3/31/11 6:38 PM, Casey Brown wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Neil Kandalgaonkarneilk@wikimedia.org wrote:
It gets worse on Commons where licenses are defined by MediaWiki:Licenses. Ignoring the "language hacks" that were done like "enownwork", this is really a data structure that has to be internationalized, and sometimes the different translations of the data structure get out of sync....
Have you seen the "Wikimedia License Texts" pesudo-extension on translatewiki? I think that might be at least similar to, if not the same thing as, what you're talking about.
The link to the "en-gb" version of these messages (it won't list them on just en because it's the source) is: http://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&task=view&group=ext-wikimedialicensetexts&language=en-gb&limit=500
Hoi, Namespaces are localised in translatewiki.net ... there are for instance quite a number of names for namespaces which are "genderised" waiting for implementation. Thanks, GerardM
On 1 April 2011 01:29, Neil Kandalgaonkar neilk@wikimedia.org wrote:
Is there any way to involve TranslateWiki in translated MediaWiki: namespace strings?
Sometimes things are translated via subpages, e.g. MediaWiki:Foo/fr, MediaWiki:Foo/de, etc. That works okay for static texts, but it's hard to know when or if we're missing a translation.
It gets worse on Commons where licenses are defined by MediaWiki:Licenses. Ignoring the "language hacks" that were done like "enownwork", this is really a data structure that has to be internationalized, and sometimes the different translations of the data structure get out of sync....
-- Neil Kandalgaonkar ( neilk@wikimedia.org
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I was not clear -- I don't mean the translation of a namespace itself, like "File:" to "Fichier:" or what have you.
I mean translations of strings like MediaWiki:Licenses.
On 4/1/11 7:05 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, Namespaces are localised in translatewiki.net http://translatewiki.net ... there are for instance quite a number of names for namespaces which are "genderised" waiting for implementation. Thanks, GerardM
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