Hoi,
I want to ask you for eligibility for Ottoman Turkish (ota) for use in Wikidata.
Thanks,
Gerard
Just to confirm: classical languages with no native speakers are accepted for Wikidata, right?
Antony
On 09.11.2013 07:22, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
I want to ask you for eligibility for Ottoman Turkish (ota) for use in Wikidata.
Thanks,
Gerard
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Hoi Antony, Classical languages but also constructed languages are accepted to Wikidata. As we decided some time ago, they DO need an ISO-639-3 code.
One other reason why this will make a difference in time is that Commons will be supported by using information that exists in the labels in Wikidata. This means that children from any language can find pictures in their own language. It just takes one person to add the equivalent of "dog" and all the 100.000 pictures of a dog can be found... Development is likely to start in 6 months time. It is however a good idea to adapt to coming changes when you see them coming :) Thanks, GerardM
On 9 November 2013 13:36, Antony Green toniogreen@web.de wrote:
Just to confirm: classical languages with no native speakers are accepted for Wikidata, right?
Antony
On 09.11.2013 07:22, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi,
I want to ask you for eligibility for Ottoman Turkish (ota) for use in Wikidata.
Thanks,
Gerard
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In that case, I agree that ota is eligible.
Antony
On 12.11.2013 09:48, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi Antony, Classical languages but also constructed languages are accepted to Wikidata. As we decided some time ago, they DO need an ISO-639-3 code.
One other reason why this will make a difference in time is that Commons will be supported by using information that exists in the labels in Wikidata. This means that children from any language can find pictures in their own language. It just takes one person to add the equivalent of "dog" and all the 100.000 pictures of a dog can be found... Development is likely to start in 6 months time. It is however a good idea to adapt to coming changes when you see them coming :) Thanks, GerardM
On 9 November 2013 13:36, Antony Green <toniogreen@web.de mailto:toniogreen@web.de> wrote:
Just to confirm: classical languages with no native speakers are accepted for Wikidata, right? Antony On 09.11.2013 07:22, Gerard Meijssen wrote:Hoi, I want to ask you for eligibility for Ottoman Turkish (ota) for use in Wikidata. Thanks, Gerard _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom-- Dr. Antony Green Rudolf-Seiffert-Str. 31, WE 1703 10369 Berlin, Germany Phone:+49 (0)30 34 50 98 97 <tel:%2B49%20%280%2930%2034%2050%2098%2097> Mobile:+49 (0)163 370 08 27 <tel:%2B49%20%280%29163%20370%2008%2027> E-mail:toniogreen@web.de <mailto:toniogreen@web.de> _______________________________________________ Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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On 12 Nov 2013, at 08:48, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Classical languages but also constructed languages are accepted to Wikidata. As we decided some time ago, they DO need an ISO-639-3 code.
So Middle English and Klingon are accepted? I don’t understand. I thought you rejected them.
Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
Hoi, I am fine with them in Wikidata... they live in their own little world. Middle English is something I would accept in a flash. Klingon I would accept preferably not as one of the first new languages. But yeah, have Klingon FOR WIKIDATA ONLY... Thanks, Gerard
On 13 November 2013 09:59, Michael Everson everson@evertype.com wrote:
On 12 Nov 2013, at 08:48, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Classical languages but also constructed languages are accepted to
Wikidata. As we decided some time ago, they DO need an ISO-639-3 code.
So Middle English and Klingon are accepted? I don’t understand. I thought you rejected them.
Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/
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Hoi Gerard,
Can you give us some more background to this request? If I remember correctly, there was some discussion a while ago about the difference between Modern Turkish and Ottoman Turkish. So what's the deal with [ota] in Wikidata?
Cheers,
Oliver
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From: Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com] Sent: 09 November 2013 09:22 To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee Subject: [Langcom] Ottoman Turkish
Hoi,
I want to ask you for eligibility for Ottoman Turkish (ota) for use in Wikidata.
Thanks,
Gerard
If the idea is, for example, to give the spelling of a historical figure in Ottoman Turkish in the Arabic alphabet, then it's certainly acceptable.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2013/11/9 Oliver Stegen info@oliverstegen.net
Hoi Gerard,
Can you give us some more background to this request? If I remember correctly, there was some discussion a while ago about the difference between Modern Turkish and Ottoman Turkish. So what’s the deal with [ota] in Wikidata?
Cheers,
Oliver
*From:* Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 November 2013 09:22 *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee *Subject:* [Langcom] Ottoman Turkish
Hoi,
I want to ask you for eligibility for Ottoman Turkish (ota) for use in Wikidata.
Thanks,
Gerard
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
Hoi, The idea is to start of with labels that descibe concepts native to Ottoman Turkish. However when people add labels to other items as well, I would not mind. Thanks, Gerard Op 9 nov. 2013 15:53 schreef "Amir E. Aharoni" <amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il
:
If the idea is, for example, to give the spelling of a historical figure in Ottoman Turkish in the Arabic alphabet, then it's certainly acceptable.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2013/11/9 Oliver Stegen info@oliverstegen.net
Hoi Gerard,
Can you give us some more background to this request? If I remember correctly, there was some discussion a while ago about the difference between Modern Turkish and Ottoman Turkish. So what’s the deal with [ota] in Wikidata?
Cheers,
Oliver
*From:* Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com] *Sent:* 09 November 2013 09:22 *To:* Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee *Subject:* [Langcom] Ottoman Turkish
Hoi,
I want to ask you for eligibility for Ottoman Turkish (ota) for use in Wikidata.
Thanks,
Gerard
Langcom mailing list Langcom@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom
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Okay, thanks, both to Gerard and to Amir. I’ve understood now and approve.
Oliver
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From: Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com] Sent: 10 November 2013 01:40 To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee Subject: Re: [Langcom] Ottoman Turkish
Hoi, The idea is to start of with labels that descibe concepts native to Ottoman Turkish. However when people add labels to other items as well, I would not mind. Thanks, Gerard
Op 9 nov. 2013 15:53 schreef "Amir E. Aharoni" amir.aharoni@mail.huji.ac.il:
If the idea is, for example, to give the spelling of a historical figure in Ottoman Turkish in the Arabic alphabet, then it's certainly acceptable.
-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
2013/11/9 Oliver Stegen info@oliverstegen.net
Hoi Gerard,
Can you give us some more background to this request? If I remember correctly, there was some discussion a while ago about the difference between Modern Turkish and Ottoman Turkish. So what’s the deal with [ota] in Wikidata?
Cheers,
Oliver
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From: Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijssen@gmail.com] Sent: 09 November 2013 09:22 To: Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee Subject: [Langcom] Ottoman Turkish
Hoi,
I want to ask you for eligibility for Ottoman Turkish (ota) for use in Wikidata.
Thanks,
Gerard
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