Hello Language Committee,
I am writing today to share a proposal for an experiment addressing a new
approach to onboarding a language wiki.
Since December 2023, we have had conversations with 35 relevant
stakeholders, including three members from the Language Committee (Tochi,
Mf-Warburg, and Jon), to develop recommendations addressing a few current
challenges with the incubation journey. As a result of these discussions,
several recommendations emerged, which are documented here
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Future_of_Language_Incubation/Recommendations
which can be broadly grouped into the following two key areas:
1.
Streamlining technical infrastructure
2.
Exploring social pathways
For the 2024-25 annual planned work of the Wikimedia Foundation and as part
of the Content Growth objective (WE2/Knowledge Equity)
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2024-2025/…>,
the Language and Product Localization team with guidance from the Language
Committee members, identified a recommendation that addresses some of the
difficulties of content creation in the Incubator due to technical
limitations of the platform. To address this, we would like to try the
following:
Identify a set of requests (maximum 5) from the list in the new wiki
approval backlog which have been either already approved by the Language
Committee and, prioritize their creation on the production infrastructure
so that they do not have to continue writing content on the incubator wiki.
At the end of a stipulated period we evaluate progress of these prioritized
wikis compared to other test projects (approved or otherwise) still in the
incubator.
Please see the detailed proposal
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wpwimVyhLOJVMnIos4cAAquTglbjdKfiHcdUmHR…>,
including selection and inclusion criteria, timeline, implementation plan,
and more information. We also presented this proposal at Wikimania 2024:
https://youtu.be/BbGrkYK8FEk?t=20299
After consultations with several other teams inside the WMF relevant to
this area of work we believe this is a feasible starting point towards
better content creation experiences for newer communities. To move onwards
we would like to reach a shared agreement with the Language Committee and
start off the pilot. Based on the criteria listed in the email, we would
like to include as part of the experiment following list of wikis (also see
attached screenshot):
-
Mapudungun
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Southern Ndebele
-
Obolo
-
Tai Nüa
-
Pannonian Rusyn
We would like to kick off this experiment as early as possible and would
really appreciate hearing your suggestions on changes or additions to the
selection criteria and initial list of wikis by August 24th.
Cheers,
Srishti
*Srishti Sethi*
Senior Developer Advocate
Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
[image: screenshot_from_2024-08-07_19-41-25.png]
Hallo,
There are these two open requests:
1. hoj:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Hadauti
2. raj:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Rajast…
raj is a macro language code, and hoj is one of the languages that belong
to it.
I don't know these languages, and I'm not sure what to do about them.
I sent talk page messages to people who contributed to them, asking whether
they actually plan to contribute to them more, and whether the current
incubator articles in them look related.
Until we get any substantial replies, I recommend marking the two requests
as "Waiting".
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Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Hi all.
I would like to ask for comments on the approval of *Wy/id*. It has been
active since Nov 2012, and it has been *20+ *months that 3 or more editors
have been active[1]. There are about 2944 pages including templates.
Most important core messages have already been translated(99.83%)[2]. The
request has already been submitted[3]. *This already has idwiki*; unless
there are special circumstances, expert verification is not likely to be
necessary.
I would like to ask for your opinion on the approval of this, thank you for
your consideration.
[1]
https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wy/id&wiki=inc…
[2] https://codelookup.toolforge.org/id
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikivoyage_Indon…
Best regards,
Sotiale
Hallo!
I am going through
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Open_requests_for_new_languages ,
project by project, letter by letter, up to ten requests per email, one
email per day.
I am now working on Wikipedia, and today I'm handling the letter T.
I took the liberty to delete
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Taiwan…
. It was posted by a user who didn't do much else and had no substantial
content or discussion. I already tried contacting the user and got no
response.
== Toki Pona ==
Request:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Toki_P…
Code: tok
My take: Eligible. It appears to be seriously active online for all kinds
of purposes, and has book publishing. I don't know for how long will this
community remain active, but I cannot think of any reasons to block it
according to the current policy.
== Triqui ==
Request:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Triqui
Code: trs
My take: Eligible. Very little content in the Incubator, but the request
appears to have been created in good faith, and the creator is still
active. I pinged them on the talk page.
== Tunica ==
Request:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tunica
Code: tun
My take: Eligible, with nearly identical explanation to Triqui. This one is
more of a revitalization project and not a totally naturally living
language, but it appears to be serious enough.
== Tunisian ==
Request:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tunisi…
Code: aeb
My take: Waiting. There is some opposition in the discussion section, but
it's a common theme of "it's not a separate language, but only a dialect".
My impression from reading about that language is that it is becoming a
stable, distinct, standardized written language, comparably to the related
(but also distinct), Moroccan Arabic (ary). I am not suggesting a full
"eligible" status at the moment because the request's creator appears to be
engaged in a serious, academic attempt to stabilize an orthography. It
waited for a few years, and the request creator has also been active in
various other Wikimedia activities, so it can wait some time more until the
writing system question gets clear.
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Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
Hallo!
I took the liberty to mark the Tver Karelian Wikipedia as not eligible:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Tver_K…
It has no ISO code. If it is similar to Karelian (krl), it should be merged
with the krl Incubator. If anyone thinks it's distinct, they should try to
apply for a new code.
If anyone disagrees, feel free to revert me.
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Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
http://aharoni.wordpress.com
“We're living in pieces,
I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore