On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Alison Wheeler wrote:
On Thu, August 28, 2008 03:24, Chris McKenna wrote:
With all due respect I don't recall seeing the answer to this question (what information is required to be given by people who wish to stand for positions on the board) on this list. Although Thomas is the most vocal person, he is not necessarily the only one.
"Required" is as stated previously, as is "preferred/helpful".
You have said *when* you require the information by, and the reason you require it (the law requires it, and anyway its good practice), but not actually *what* is required. You have also said what it would be "preferred/helpful" (notes about previous expiereince, involvement with WMF/projects, why you want to stand, and anything else that you (the person standing, or wishing to stand) thinks apropriate). Nowhere have you acutally said what is legally required - my /guess/ is that Name, address, date of birth, and any other directorships you hold are required. What about such things as any criminal record? NI number? previous addresses? bank details? passport details? Signature? Details and/or proof of any academic qualifications? A satement that you agree to the WMF passing on your details to Companies House (and any other place they are legally obliged to) if you get elected? Employment or unemployment details?
If this is all detialed somewhere online, point us there rather than saying it has been answered previously when it hasn't been previously answered on this list (given that this is where the question was asked, it is reasonable to assume that this is where the answer will/would be given, unless explicitly mentioned otherwise)..
Nor do I recall seeing an answer, on this list, about whether sending the information by email is sufficient? Iif so, should this be sent to you personally, or to a different email address?.
Everything (MoA, AoA, website, list posts) has made it clear that everything is done by electronic means where ever possible.
Thank you, although answering "yes, email is fine" to the original equiry would have save a lot of bother. Not everybody here is familiar with company law, and it is reasonable to query whether applications for directorship are one occasion where doing it electronically is not possible. After all simple membership is not.
Presumably then these can be emailed to you (or another director?) personally?
If sending something by post is required, where should this be sent - the only postal address I can spot on the WMUK website is the one on the membership application form (i.e. London N6)? (I understand that if it is the private address of a director they may not want this on the public email list, if this is the case please let us know how people wishing to send things to this address may find it)
There is a public address on the forms which can be used for postal mail.
This is slightly moot now you've answered that email is fine, but I am not aware of any forms on the WMUK site for people who wish to stand as a director. If there were, I would guess that by now you would have answered one of these many questions with 'there is a form on the WMUK website which has all the details you need'. As you haven't, it would appear there isn't one I'm overlooking. As clever as we all are on this list, I don't believe any of us can read the address on a form that doesn't exist.
Yes, there is such an address on the /membership/ form, but this is not a form for wishing to stand as a director. It may or may not have been the same address as the membership form states, hence I asked the question (which you still haven't answered definitively).
Finally, could you confirm that the London N6 address is still the correct address to send membership requests to.
Yes; again it is printed on the forms so that people have it directly in front of them! Should the address change (as it has once in the past) the forms get changed.
Thank you, as this question was about the membership forms, that do exist, (unlike the forms you refer to in the previous answer) you have now answered this question defnitively. I don't understand why you didn't answer Thomas when he first asked getting on for a month ago?
While it is good to know that these forms will be kept up-to-date, the fact that other parts of the WMUK website (e.g. the fact that guarantor membership is available to non-supporting members) and information related to WMUK elsewhere (as has been discussed at length) has /not/ been kept up to date, means it was necessary to ask the quesiton.
In all these email messages asking various questions of you in particular Alison, and of the WMUK more generally (not just my previous email), there are some things that are clearly not known, outside your control and others that you cannot publicly give a (straight) answer to. I acceept this, although it would be far nicer to be given the answer "I'm sorry I don't know" or "I can't publicly give you an answer to this at the moment, due to blah" rather than a political non-answer written in what comes accross as a very confrontational tone on many occasions.
Additionally, it is particularly unimpressive and insulting to be given such a non-answer where there is clearly no need for one. It should not a month of pushing to get the answers like "yes, the address on the membership form is correct" and "prospective directors may send in their details electronically".
It is from responses such as these that lead to the accusastions of being obtuse.
Chris